Future S9 firmware wishlist summary
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@dmytro Just spoke to the guy at the shop where I buy my watches for years and he told me that the upcoming Suunto product was planned for a September/October delivery but is delayed to early 2022. He is super reliable and a nice guy.
Apple Watch Ultra (currently on my wrist)
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@patrick-löffler watch from other thread?
App: beta
Phone: Iphone
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@theguyfromthesummit ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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@dulko79 Yes. I also know some details. But not shure if it is welcome to disclose here. And honestly it’s easy to guess if you look closely at the other thread covering that topic.
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@isazi I already did. Still waiting for a response
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@theguyfromthesummit cool, and if you have issues with support there may be someone (not me) able to help you in this forum. I see lots of tracks of people with S9, both testers and followers in SA, and in the open mountainous terrain of the last pictures you showed the track should not be as bad as you have, especially you should not have missing sections.
Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti
Blog: isazi's home
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@isazi Thanks! I will see what the support says.
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@theguyfromthesummit My running is almost exclusively mountainous but likely with less forest than you have. My tracks are usually great and I do not have your experience. I would argue what you are seeing is not normal.
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Don’t know if I have already said it but I’d really like a battery field that I can implement into my screens. Saves having to press a button to see what percentage I have remaining
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@miniforklift If you chose the right watch face you can have this displayed continuously.
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@brad_olwin said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:
@miniforklift If you chose the right watch face you can have this displayed continuously.
Sorry, I was meaning to have the option to have battery percentage as a data field on an activity screen
I do have it showing on my daily watchface
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@dmytro I bought an early Garmin that had a touchable bezel. Took it for a day of skiing and the watch started and stopped the exercise, reset itself and did a lot of things all without any involvement on my part. I returned it the next day.
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@patrick-löffler said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:
he told me that the upcoming Suunto product was planned for a September/October delivery but is delayed to early 2022.
Sad
Let’s hope he is wrong
BR
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@sky-runner actually I forgot that the main consideration for live segments for Suunto might not be hardware limitations but actually how they get the segments into the Suunto watches. If I recall only Garmin, Wahoo, and Polar have these and they likely have to pay Strava for the API/data sharing on the native apps. So it might actually be more of a calculated ROI decision than a hardware limitation at present; I suspect a lot of S9 users are also into strava segments so honestly it seems like a no brainer to me but then again I’m not a market research analyst so I might not know all the facts…in terms of sheer count of units sold I think Garmin v Suunto (for example) is very different so that might have something to do with this particular type of feature.
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@northeast_trekker to me personally it’s interesting if those who want strava segments on the watch are willing to pay subscription fee for such feature, and how much?
I assume subscription would benefit all parties - users who need segments, users who don’t, strava, suunto.Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer
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@pavel-samokha I enjoy competing with myself using strava segments but I wouldn’t pay anymore than I already do, to have them live on my watch, I am happy to wait until I look at my transferred data to see how I have done! Having to pay third party companies to get the best out of my watch would be a put off for me, kinda already is.
might be slightly off topic but also slightly on-topic:
It already urks / niggles me that this was the proposed / suggested route suunto was taking when they shut down movescount, and some folk suggested we pay third party companies to get some of the analysis / information that we would be loosing when movescount was shut down, and I have in fact had to do that with strava, I would have considered paying suunto the fee i pay to strava to keep the web based movescount and the information / analysis it provided: (Maybe)! no doubt I still would have been upset to have to pay a subscription to suunto to get the best out of a product that I already paid for!!! tricky one regardless… -
@pavel-samokha said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:
@northeast_trekker to me personally it’s interesting if those who want strava segments on the watch are willing to pay subscription fee for such feature, and how much?
I don’t know if many would pay a fee if they’re already available on other watches at no additional charge? My training partner switched from his S9B to the Garmin Enduro and the Enduro have live segments for Strava was one of the main reasons. I think it’s cool but for me personally it wouldn’t be enough to make me want to switch brands
SV Titanium Solar Forest
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@miniforklift Right, there is no additional fee. Strava premium subscription covers that already.
As someone who uses Strava live segments on a Garmin watch regularly, I wanted to mention that the implementation, sadly, leaves a lot to be desired. I am primarily a trail runner, and live segments are extremely unreliable on trails. For a long live segment, a probability of my Fenix dropping of it somewhere in a middle is nearly 100%. Plus, Strava restricts downhill segments from being synced to devices, and downhill means anything more than negative 0.25%, which is pretty ridiculous for running. It seems Strava had implemented that restriction because of a couple tragic incidents involving cyclists, but they blindly extended the same restriction to all sports.
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@miniforklift said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:
I don’t know if many would pay a fee if they’re already available on other watches at no additional charge?
I assume that there is always additional charge for functions like this - manufacturers should pay Strava for live segments, there is no free breakfast.
So this price is either included into the watch price for all customers (vast majority of them doesn’t care about strava segments) or only users who really need the feature pay some additional subscription fee for that. -
By the way, EU now considers making 7 years of software updates or at least security updates mandatory for all phones. It’s only a matter of time that something similar comes up for sport- and smartwatches. Thus, I think, payments for updates are inevitable.
