Back-up function ?

olymay

I’m also looking at a way of downloading ALL of my historical activities from Suunto.

I want to do this as I am looking to use a service that will help me build a structured training plan and so far I am drawn towards Training Peaks.
One problem with Training Peaks is that it will only sync new activities, it cannot see the past 19 months of data I have from my Suunto 7.

I reached out to Suunto Support who at first couldn’t understand what I wanted, and have finally given me the sage advice of “speak to training peaks, they can help you with this”.

I’ve spent all week at work speaking to idiots so my patience is admittedly wearing a bit thin. I do not want to speak to the support agent any longer, as I may start to turn the sarcasm up to 11 (it’s been on 10 at work and so far most people have got the hint!) so I was hoping that one/some of the lovely (and helpful and knowledgeable) people on this forum might be able to help me please

isazi

@olymay in theory Suunto API should support an history import of some sort (I am sure you can do it in QS), not sure if TP implements it though. And yes Suunto support should be able to send you a zip with all your activities. Maybe @pavel-samokha (the backend guru) knows if Suunto has this API or not.

olymay

@isazi said in Back-up function ?:

@olymay in theory Suunto API should support an history import of some sort (I am sure you can do it in QS), not sure if TP implements it though. And yes Suunto support should be able to send you a zip with all your activities. Maybe @pavel-samokha (the backend guru) knows if Suunto has this API or not.

Thanks dude. I don’t know QS well enough to be able to get all of my historical data from it (I’ve tried but failed miserably).

TP states that it will accept manually updated data (either by file explorer or drag and drop) so it should be possible to add in all of my historical data

pavel.samokha

@isazi if I understand @olymay correctly then he wants to import all his historical data from Suunto App to TP.
There is indeed no out-of-the-box solution for that in SA/TP integration. Although API exists for downloading all historical workouts and Runalyze, QS and others use it afaik

Options I see in case of @olymay

Contact support and ask for GDPR export. Then you receive a file with all your workouts. Then drop them in batches to TP for import. However I don’t know if GPX files in that export will be correctly handled by TP.
Use RunGap or FitnessSyncer to sync between SA and TP.

isazi

@pavel-samokha thanks! I just went to check the API and it would indeed be possible for TP to implement that (they have history import for Garmin). Maybe TP users should start asking for that

olymay

@pavel-samokha thanks for replying

You are correct, I am trying to import my historical Suunto data over into Training Peaks.

I have asked Suunto Support for my historical data and they are telling me to speak to Training Peaks. This was after making me wait two days whilst they went away to research the matter.
I am reluctant to continue speaking to the support agent as I am clearly wasting my time speaking to someone who doesn’t understand a basic request.

I’m also a little reluctant to use a third party to transfer my data from one service to another, as I don’t know where the data goes, what they do with it, or who snoops through it.

TP accepts both gpx and fit files, but gpx files do not store HR data, so I need the fit files to get the most out of doing this.

Thanks again for helping. I’m sure there must be a way and I am sure we will get there in the end

pavel.samokha

@olymay

Say support that you want to get your data exported according to GDPR. Then you’ll get a link to your email for archive with all your data. Be kind to support, they know a lot but sometimes it’s hard to understand complex requests
I think our GPX has HR via extension, but that’s why I say TP may not import it
RunGap at least doesn’t store your data anywhere https://rungap.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/222528327-Privacy-Policy-15-May-2018

olymay

@pavel-samokha thanks.

I’m always as nice as possible to any support and customer service agent. That is why I have stopped talking to them today - a rubbish week at work dealing with idiots and morons has left me with little patience. I don’t want to snap at anyone, so I turned to the forum as I know people on here are helpful and friendly

Does it have to be a gpx file from Sunnto? It can’t be a fit file? If that’s the way it is then so be it, I’ll have to make do.

Sadly I can’t use RunGap it it looks like they only support iOS

Mff73

@olymay
in android, there is (was?) syncmytracks that is able to download all your history in TCX files, but it doesn’t connect to SA with the new auth API (is there any big risk though ? i don’t know).

I am trying right now to export all my history from runalyze and see what they will send to me (which files). If it is fit files, then, as runalyze as a complete history import tools from SA, and then export tools, you could be good with this “process”
For sure, Runalyze will store your data, but you could request to delete after.
Maybe another 3rd party tools as same functionalities to help.

i will come back when runalyze will give me my data

olymay

@mff73 Thank you, I really appreciate that

Mff73

@olymay
And you may appreciate the conclusion .
I receive my runalyze backup, a link in their Web platform to download a big zip file (named gdpr-backup ) with 167Mo of other zip files containing all my activities in fit format.
A these fit files seems to be the original Suunto ones .
To conclude, if you dare open a runalyze account, you may be able to import all your SA history and export it after in original Suunto fit files.

olymay

@mff73 that sounds fantastic!!!

I actually have a Runalyze account (they seemed ok when I read up on them a while back) so this could work for me.

How did you go about getting the data from them?

Mff73

@olymay

olymay

@mff73 I COULD HUG YOU!!!

It worked!!! It worked!!!

Download from Runalyze gave me a zip folder full of zip folders and loads of json files (don’t need them!).
Each zip folder was for one activity and contained one fit file.
Bit of a fiddle to get them all extracted to the same place then get all the fit files into one folder, but it only took a couple of minutes. MUCH faster than downloading them one by one.

A quick select all and then drag and drop onto the Training Peaks calendar and BAM!! all activities were there!! Complete with gps data and HR data. Everything I could have wanted!

THANK YOU!!!

I knew the forum would be the place to ask about this

Mff73

@olymay said in Back-up function ?:

I knew the forum would be the place to ask about this

Just because you touched a sensible cord in me when speaking about so many “idiots” at work who push you into a desesperate question here I felt so concerned (not this week though) 🤪

isazi

Guys you are great!

BTW I have a premium TP account, but as of yesterday also paid my yearly contribution to Runalyze because I really like their work.

olymay

@isazi said in Back-up function ?:

Guys you are great!

BTW I have a premium TP account, but as of yesterday also paid my yearly contribution to Runalyze because I really like their work.

I’m undecided about going premium with TP. Is it worth it? What are the main benefits over the free version?

(sorry for going off topic)

isazi

@olymay said in Back-up function ?:

I’m undecided about going premium with TP. Is it worth it? What are the main benefits over the free version?

I use it to plan my training, having used it since 2017 more or less, some years I pay for premium, some years I do not. With premium you have the ability to plan the season and follow the training metrics (that you also get for free from SA, but that was not the case a year ago). Also if you buy training plans you may need premium (but I may be wrong here).

TP gives you 15/30 days of premium the first time you create an account.

olymay

@isazi Thanks, it might be worth a shot then.

My target for 2022 is to enter and complete a 50km Ultra (i know it’s’ baby ultra but it’s a big deal for me!) before the end of the year.

The furthest I’ve run to data is 22km, so I need to more than double that. Coupled with the fact I came back to hard from a knee injury and hurt my achilles again, I need to take things slow and steady for a while.

I think I can get to 50km, but to do so without hurting myself I think I’ll need some sort of structured plan.
Ideally I want something in my watch, but as the S7 doesn’t support that I’ll have to make do with the old fashioned way

isazi

@olymay said in Back-up function ?:

Ideally I want something in my watch, but as the S7 doesn’t support that I’ll have to make do with the old fashioned way

I recently managed to complete a marathon training plan on TP without watch support, remembering the workouts wasn’t a big deal (just read them on the TP app before going out).