Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin

[Brad_Olwin]

@tyresej4 said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

@brad_olwin Lol Suunto needs to do ALOT of things to keep up with Garmin. I’m not knocking Suunto, Just being honest with ya.

I disagree as the companies clearly take different approaches. Suunto is much more minimalist, so compare the Enduro to the 9Peak. The major differences would be 1 sec battery life, complex interval workouts and ClimbPro. The major features are quite similar. I prefer a smaller watch with FusedTrack instead of a very large watch, I don’t mind the tracks or distances with FusedTrack. I find the Suunto interface much less confusing and cleaner, so it is a personal preference. I think Suunto’s approach to navigation is far, far, far superior to Garmin’s. I have an inReach mini and the difficulties in using and configuring routes is a Byzantine nightmare. Navigation matters to me and watch size matters so I don’t think Suunto has much catching up to do. I would argue something similar or better than ClimbPro, complex interval for those that want it, I don’t think there is much else.

[TonyG]

@brad_olwin I use a Garmin GPSMAP (if were talking about handhelds) to Map out areas of ecological interest and create and follow existing routes to narrow down the search parameters when out in the field, and find the process of creating, using and configuring a route very easy and a pleasure to do, in fact I also have ordnance survey maps 1:25000 loaded onto the unit as well making the whole gps experience a pleasure to use. The one limitation I found in the past for me was a track limited to 10,000 points recorded in any one instance, but the latest version has extended to 20,000 points.

The InReach mini I would have thought was primarily a gps communicator with other functions built in as a by product, I find it difficult to hold it as a comparator to a brands experience of using and configuring routes.
I guess its all subjective within each individuals experiences.

[cosme.costa]

@jamie-bg said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

@dmytro - would be nice if it was included.
For MTB there is grit and flow which pretty much does that - gives a pretty good indication of the type of terrain. My BiL regulary does MTB and you can actively see when he hits really rough spots in the course. Of course that is unfortunately all during (seems a bit pointless) and post activity.

What is the utility of grit and flow? For me none, and I’m using a Garmin 530 as MTB computer. How a bike computer can know something about the terrain? The same computer that can count jumps and only counts the 20% of them and being very generous. ClimbPro, until the update 8.XX was not working well in 80% of the cases, a little bit better if you are doing road cycling but always loading the track in Connect, if not doesn’t work at all. As I have said several times, parameters that are not useful or reliable are pointless or another parameter the you delete from your screen, but well we can say that it has a lot of things.

BTW, in Garmin you can configure everything which is good but also a pain in the ass.

[freeheeler]

@brad_olwin
…and Suunto does not try to convince us to start golfing… just that this is being said as another big plus on Suunto

I’ve had a Garmin and told Garmin customer service the vice versa of this threads title
There is so much I appreciate in Suunto over Garmin

[MiniForklift]

@freeheeler said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

…and Suunto does not try to convince us to start golfing…

Good… I have enough frustrations in my life already

I’m with Brad, would love to see a dedicated climbing/elevation screen. I used the Polar Grit X Pro for a month or so and that had one and it was excellent; it told you exactly where you were on your run, you could see the upcoming climbs and all of the climb info was there on the screen as you were ascending

If we could get something like this or better for Suunto that would be a massive plus in my eyes, and I think it would really put us head and shoulders above the rest

[MiniForklift]

I just realised that the OP posted this ages ago and he never came back on to say which watch he ended up getting

After 150+ posts on Garmin Vs Suunto it seems like he went with an Apple Watch 4 ?! His last post was a year and a half ago and pretty much all 16 of them were anti-Suunto. Sounds like his Apple watch ticked all of the boxes, obviously wasn’t too fussed on battery life

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@miniforklift lol

[Tomas5]

@miniforklift well apple watch is great smartwatch and good sports watch too but battery life is joke not usable for all day hiking.

[titus_fromnewtown]

So upset with the latest news about Ambit/Traverse with no more possibility to edit/modify/create apps. I was really fan of my Ambit 3, and it is going to be a basic watch instead ot the best ever sport/adventure watch you could find !
Don’t think I’m going to purchase another Suunto if nothing is done to restore APPS edition/modification.

[freeheeler]

@titus_fromnewtown
what apps exactly do you miss?

[MiniForklift]

@tomas5 said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

@miniforklift well apple watch is great smartwatch and good sports watch too but battery life is joke not usable for all day hiking.

I believe that was his primary sport

[titus_fromnewtown]

@freeheeler : all my private apps, with the possibility to modify some parameters of them (I had all my interval trainings with parametric settings)

[Tetrix22222]

@sebchastang unbelievable!

[Tetrix22222]

@titus_fromnewtown decapitating their own products, you can’t make this s*** up on a netflix script!

[freeheeler]

@tetrix22222
…and another post with constructive criticism

[Bulkan]

Ey great comments. If this carry on I think I will close this in 3,2…

Is not going anywhere these comments.

[A Former User]

@titus_fromnewtown said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

So upset with the latest news about Ambit/Traverse with no more possibility to edit/modify/create apps. I was really fan of my Ambit 3, and it is going to be a basic watch instead ot the best ever sport/adventure watch you could find !
Don’t think I’m going to purchase another Suunto if nothing is done to restore APPS edition/modification.

the question is…if they do that modification, will you purchase another suunto (new model)?
If you do…it means that the new model already fit your needs…

[MiniForklift]

I was really pleased to see something very similar to this when I used ‘Snap To Route’ on a hilly run earlier this week, didn’t realise that screen was there

[isazi]

@miniforklift there is something like that in navigation (routes and snap to route). Suunto is aware that people want even more, your feedback (you as the forum) has been forwarded, and most field testers want more also.

[Alexander Jerković]

Personally, I am very disappointed with the attitude towards customers. Taking away the functionality of things we’ve already paid for is similar to stealing. If a new opaque and useless mobile app is already being introduced, forcing customers to switch to this scrapbook is the worst marketing move I’ve seen in the last few years. This means that suunto products lose some functionality after a while, even though we paid for it. I would never have bought a watch if I knew it would change the way I manage it. To force a client to use a method they don’t like is an extremely mean and unfair move. If a company thinks of retaining customers this way, it is honestly wrong. New forms and complex applications are just an additional burden for the user. It took me about half a day to change everything to a new environment and eventually found that they robbed me of most of the functionality. It’s like if parts fell out of my car while driving … I probably wouldn’t buy a car of the same brand
New things are supposed to be introduced to impress customers rather than disappoint them. However, if the gentlemen in marketing think that immediately after the loss of functionality I will throw the watch in the trash and buy a new one from the same manufacturer, they are deeply mistaken. I think most users have a similar mindset. It is a pity that such quality hardware suffers from the delusions of misguided marketing strategies.
Too bad