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Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin

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    ChrisA Platinum Member @freeheeler
    last edited by 22 Jan 2022, 12:40

    @freeheeler thanks - makes sense. For me it sounds illogical, that a company would “kill” a great and working platform, which is/was - from what I read here - the reason for many people to buy their products in the first place. There must have been some reasons/problems, that Suunto saw on the horizon. Can understand the disappointment of the users though, but what is it for? You won’t change things anyway and so every one must make ones choices. I think it’s waste of time to discuss it endlessly - so sorry for bringing it up again 😅

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      A Former User @ChrisA
      last edited by 22 Jan 2022, 14:46

      @chrisa said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

      @freeheeler thanks - makes sense. For me it sounds illogical, that a company would “kill” a great and working platform, which is/was - from what I read here - the reason for many people to buy their products in the first place. There must have been some reasons/problems, that Suunto saw on the horizon. Can understand the disappointment of the users though, but what is it for? You won’t change things anyway and so every one must make ones choices. I think it’s waste of time to discuss it endlessly - so sorry for bringing it up again 😅

      Let’s not forget, what can be very good for us users, can be a mess for the company.
      I believe when they closed movescount it was because it was a hell to maintain, and that SA could replace it, specially with 3rd party connections (route planners, performance analyzers, etc).
      I believe the thing that misses, and there are rumors it will come to 3rd parties, is complex interval and planner via 3rd parties.
      Syncing routes to a3 via phone is also missing, but also the old workflow was not, what I would kind “normal” for an average user. But I understand, that for those who were using it, it was a viable solution.

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        Bulkan Moderator
        last edited by 22 Jan 2022, 18:40

        I have a question.

        Are you talking about the apps than were a free update in the Ambit 3?

        I know the Movescount drama. But now Suunto app beta is in big screens. You can use the apps you had in your watch… or are you creating new apps after years of use?

        Is ok to don’t be happy with the Movescount farewell but some facts aren’t true or accurate.

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          sebchastang Silver Members @Bulkan
          last edited by sebchastang 22 Jan 2022, 20:25

          @Bulkan
          Maybe some of us would need to create new Suunto apps. I don’t think I personally would need to create new ones (maybe 1 or 2, but not much more), BUT we really need to be able to EDIT those apps since some of them are dynamic and need some variables to be set at the beginning of the program.
          That is the case for interval training apps for example, but I know some other users who also need to edit variable values to use apps according to their needs.
          That is why it is really important to be able to access a compiler so we could edit apps and keep using them.
          Lots of apps are totally useless without ability to edit them.
          And I personally also miss a lot the data logged by those apps since they are no synced with SA (although they used to with Moveslink2 or Movescount app). Those data were very important and interesting to analyse workouts just like other data are (like speed, distance, ascent, pace, …). This is the other weakness of this transition: loss of those data.

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            Tomas5 @MiniForklift
            last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 12:02

            @miniforklift I would really like to have this kind of info in watch. Today i used navigation on route i didn’t know yet, it would be nice to know how many climbs is at front of me. I didn’t remember from planing the route how many of them will be there. In watch it would be great info.

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              DMytro @Tomas5
              last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 12:10

              @tomas5 doesn’t it shown an altitude profile?

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                Tomas5 @DMytro
                last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 12:16

                @dmytro maybe i miss something, i used navigate route in watch, i saw map which works great (except missing compas 😞 ) even turn by turn works quite good for crosscountry skiing. But i don’t know how to display altitude profile of planned route in watch.

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                  DMytro @Tomas5
                  last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 12:52

                  @tomas5 oh, just start an activity instead. Like hiking or something, then select a route and there you go.

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                    Tomas5 @DMytro
                    last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 13:00

                    @dmytro is this new feature or i was blind before 😄 thank you very much. Today was first time i was looking for this feature as i am just learning cross country skiing and i was really curious how many climbs is ahead of me. It is good that it is there. I just tried it and it looks like it is what i was looking for. Thanks again.

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                      DMytro @Tomas5
                      last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 13:07

                      @tomas5 it was there from the start XD
                      You were actually so sure that I began to doubt myself haha

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                        A Former User @DMytro
                        last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 15:04

                        @dmytro said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

                        oh, just start an activity instead. Like hiking or something, then select a route and there you go.

                        if I may… or just (A3P user here) select NAVIGATION>ROUTES>select the route>VIEW and you can see both the route and the altitude profile.

                        I’m happy now altitude profile has been restored on my A3P (I missed it since it was dropped in MC because of the API license if I’m not mistaken)

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                          MiniForklift Platinum Member @sebchastang
                          last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 20:02

                          @sebchastang said in [Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin]

                          we lost ability to sync all settings/routes with a mobile phone. Maybe you always train around the place you are living in and always has access to a computer with SuuntoLink. How do you edit/sync settings and routes when you are exploring an other place in you country or elsewhere?

                          I am always traveling and away from home and I create maps and routes in the app using my phone. It’s easy as. I also sync all of my settings using my phone… so not sure I follow

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                            freeheeler @MiniForklift
                            last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 20:06

                            @miniforklift
                            Vintage equipment topic here 😉

                            living sideways

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                              wakarimasen Silver Members @Guest
                              last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 20:58

                              @g-q said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

                              @dmytro said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

                              oh, just start an activity instead. Like hiking or something, then select a route and there you go.

                              if I may… or just (A3P user here) select NAVIGATION>ROUTES>select the route>VIEW and you can see both the route and the altitude profile.

                              I’m happy now altitude profile has been restored on my A3P (I missed it since it was dropped in MC because of the API license if I’m not mistaken)

                              Hiked at the weekend with both my Ambit3 Peak and S9B. The route was clearer on the latter, but the Ambit didn’t ask for its compass to be calibrated four times during the route 😊

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                                DMytro @wakarimasen
                                last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 21:01

                                @wakarimasen s9B shouldn’t have asked that either. Do you have magnets on you somewhere? Maybe for a hose attachment if you use a bladder.

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                                  wakarimasen Silver Members @DMytro
                                  last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 21:03

                                  @dmytro Don’t think so. I was carrying a camera, if that would make any difference.

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                                    DMytro @wakarimasen
                                    last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 21:05

                                    @wakarimasen nah, unlikely. Maybe first few times compass has been calibrated poorly, I’m not sure.
                                    Never happend to me though, maximum of one time per activity.

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                                      MiniForklift Platinum Member @wakarimasen
                                      last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 21:09

                                      @wakarimasen said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

                                      Hiked at the weekend with both my Ambit3 Peak and S9B. The route was clearer on the latter, but the Ambit didn’t ask for its compass to be calibrated four times during the route 😊

                                      FWIW I had this happen to me a couple of days ago, asked me to calibrate the compass twice during an activity. Can’t remember that ever happening before

                                      Can’t remember what I did, I either pressed the middle button or just ignored it and it did go away and resume to the normal screens

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                                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @wakarimasen
                                        last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 21:11

                                        @wakarimasen If you have magnets on your gear anywhere, that will cause the compass to need recalibrating. This happens to me all the time as I wear UltraSpire packs and they use magnets to hold pockets together and for the water tube from the bladder. On the Momentum 2 Pack the water bottle pockets are secured with magnets, every time I reach for water with my left hand (where my watch is) I have to recalibrate……arrrggghhh.
                                        You may have a magnet on your gear somewhere. When the watch gets close enough the compass needs recalibrating.

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                                          wakarimasen Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
                                          last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 21:13

                                          @brad_olwin said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

                                          @wakarimasen If you have magnets on your gear anywhere, that will cause the compass to need recalibrating. This happens to me all the time as I wear UltraSpire packs and they use magnets to hold pockets together and for the water tube from the bladder. On the Momentum 2 Pack the water bottle pockets are secured with magnets, every time I reach for water with my left hand (where my watch is) I have to recalibrate……arrrggghhh.
                                          You may have a magnet on your gear somewhere. When the watch gets close enough the compass needs recalibrating.

                                          AirPods case in my pocket - maybe that’s the culprit

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