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    How is the 9PP positioned with the new arrival of the RaceS?

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    • enriqueescomsE Offline
      enriqueescoms
      last edited by enriqueescoms

      Following the fresh arrival of the Suunto Race S, how is now the 9 Peak Pro positioned?

      Because at the same price, Race S will offer a larger screen with better visual features* (right, right?), a better HR sensor, maps, the crown button that makes it easier to use** (true too, right?) and without increase weight.

      On the other hand, it hardly penalizes with a 2mm larger body***, sacrifices the sapphire for gorilla glass****, and sees how the battery life is reduced by around 25%.

      What is your opinion? Suunto Race S demolishes the 9PP or, on the contrary, is there room for both?


      *I don’t know how the new amoled screen will behave compared to the 9PP with MIP and LED lighting, but from the comments it seems that

      ** I have not used the crown, but it seems to me that it gives (or will give) more play for use.

      *** Be careful, a 2mm larger case is a handicap for my small wrist, but this can even be an advantage for other people.

      **** I’m not even so sure about the advantages of sapphire over gorilla glass, mainly because sapphire causes greater reflections which, at certain angles, make reading the screen a little more difficult.

      Suunto 9 Peak Pro (all black version)

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      • HansLeoH Offline
        HansLeo @enriqueescoms
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        @enriqueescoms Suunto Race S is targeted more at recreational runners or sports enthusiasts who may want to enhance their performance, it looks to me like an updated version of the old Suunto 3.

        On the other hand the battery life of the S9PP is excellent (for activities and in everyday use), and a lot of new features will arrive this year (as stated in other posts).

        As an S9PP owner and user, I perceive it as an entry-level adventure watch that has the basic alti-baro-compass features, I would say its a more simpler and companion watch for the Vertical users 🙂

        Hans, outdoor and mountain enthusiast

        Proud owner of
        Suunto Vertical Ti Solar (current watch)
        Suunto 9 Peak Pro (secondary watch)
        S9B (had it for some time)
        SA3P (first suunto ever)

        Strava:
        https://www.strava.com/athletes/90965848

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        • EgikaE Offline
          Egika Platinum Member @enriqueescoms
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          @enriqueescoms

          Race S has maps, dual frequency GPS and Amoled display
          S9PP has a longer battery life in daily mode, a Sapphire screen and a MIP display.

          That’s basically about the difference. Comes down to personal preference what one rates higher for their use case.

          t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
          Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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            fv4500 Bronze Member
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            I think that the 9PP has it very complicated to stand out against the Race S… the new RS is all shininess and bells and whistles and the key differences that the 9PP has against the RS are made evident only in the “long run”.
            Surprisingly enough, if the 9PP gets the same updates it will put it as an extremely good competitor to it! I still think that the MIPS display is fantastic outdoors and is not a lighthouse in your wrist on a daily use. Also, a slight reduction in price would put the 9PP in a better position, I think.
            I’m very happy with the 9PP, but I would have serious difficulties if I had to decide between the Race S and the 9PP today, frankly speaking 😰 .

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            • enriqueescomsE Offline
              enriqueescoms @fv4500
              last edited by enriqueescoms

              @fv4500 Well, like that, I agree with your point of view.

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              • enriqueescomsE Offline
                enriqueescoms @Egika
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                @Egika said in How is the 9PP positioned with the new arrival of the RaceS?:

                @enriqueescoms

                Race S has maps, dual frequency GPS and Amoled display
                S9PP has a longer battery life in daily mode, a Sapphire screen and a MIP display.

                That’s basically about the difference. Comes down to personal preference what one rates higher for their use case.

                Sure, of course. I imagine that in a while someone will do a comparative review between one model and another.

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                • raceaddictR Offline
                  raceaddict Bronze Member @enriqueescoms
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                  @enriqueescoms this one ?
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                  Or you can use the comparative tool on the Suunto site.

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                  • enriqueescomsE Offline
                    enriqueescoms @raceaddict
                    last edited by enriqueescoms

                    @raceaddict Yeah, of course. Although, beyond the strict specifications, I was referring rather to a comparison in real use (pros and cons). 😉

                    (I am referring to readability in different situations, comfort, perceived quality, user experience, etc. That kind of things.)

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                    • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @enriqueescoms
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                      @enriqueescoms They are nearly identical in terms of comfort, use, etc. However one screen is far brighter, more colorful and has much higher resolution!

                      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                      • enriqueescomsE Offline
                        enriqueescoms @Brad_Olwin
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                        @Brad_Olwin said in How is the 9PP positioned with the new arrival of the RaceS?:

                        @enriqueescoms They are nearly identical in terms of comfort, use, etc. However one screen is far brighter, more colorful and has much higher resolution!

                        So as I think, Race S come to kill our 9PP´s 🤖

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                        • enriqueescomsE Offline
                          enriqueescoms
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                          It is significant to see that just over a year ago (may 2023) the 9PP was little less than the flagship, the top of the range at Suunto. And in that small space of time, it has become practically an entry-level range.

                          I imagine that this speaks very well of the effort that Suunto has made in recent months.

                          (Oops, I still don’t know if this is good for me or not. 😱 😜 )

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                            HansLeo @enriqueescoms
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                            @enriqueescoms Yeah, that’s truly incredible!

                            By the way, the S9PP as an “entry-level” watch is awesome for newbies; it got all the features, and to me when I use it still gives me some Ambit 3 Peak vibes in terms of performance and ruggedness 😊

                            Hans, outdoor and mountain enthusiast

                            Proud owner of
                            Suunto Vertical Ti Solar (current watch)
                            Suunto 9 Peak Pro (secondary watch)
                            S9B (had it for some time)
                            SA3P (first suunto ever)

                            Strava:
                            https://www.strava.com/athletes/90965848

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                              wurzlsepp Bronze Member @enriqueescoms
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                              @enriqueescoms said in How is the 9PP positioned with the new arrival of the RaceS?:

                              So as I think, Race S come to kill our 9PP´s 🤖

                              I won’t let it be killed that easily 😉 the MIP screen and thus the long screen-on-time of the 9PP is literally the only thing that makes it better than my smartphone.
                              Instead of the Race S, i could just use my phone with a screen even more vibrant😂

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                                krakra Bronze Member @wurzlsepp
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                                @wurzlsepp on s9pp i would miss maps personally

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                                  A Former User @enriqueescoms
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                                  @enriqueescoms said in How is the 9PP positioned with the new arrival of the RaceS?:

                                  It is significant to see that just over a year ago (may 2023) the 9PP was little less than the flagship, the top of the range at Suunto. And in that small space of time, it has become practically an entry-level range.

                                  I imagine that this speaks very well of the effort that Suunto has made in recent months.

                                  True. The 9PP was a gem and I hope the RS will be a worthy follower. Time will tell.

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                                  • enriqueescomsE Offline
                                    enriqueescoms @HansLeo
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                                    @HansLeo said in How is the 9PP positioned with the new arrival of the RaceS?:

                                    @enriqueescoms Yeah, that’s truly incredible!

                                    By the way, the S9PP as an “entry-level” watch is awesome for newbies; it got all the features, and to me when I use it still gives me some Ambit 3 Peak vibes in terms of performance and ruggedness 😊

                                    Absolutely 👍 😊

                                    Suunto 9 Peak Pro (all black version)

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                                      fv4500 Bronze Member @enriqueescoms
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                                      Haven’t seen DC Rainmaker’s video on the Race S until today, and frankly speaking I love my 9PP more than ever after I heard that he’s getting more like 3-ish days of battery life with always-on display in the Race S, here:

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                                      With my 12-ish days with almost daily training, the 9PP is in another galaxy, really.

                                      Still loving the new Race S 😎 , Suunto did a very nice job.

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                                        raceaddict Bronze Member @fv4500
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                                        @fv4500 yeah, it’s currently the drawback of Amoled but as even AOD is still a sort of power saving mode, I think it’s best to leave it off and you have up to 9days of battery life w/o any exercice. Not bad for the size.

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                                          A Former User @fv4500
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                                          @fv4500 it would be interesting to know if DCR had the latest (production) fw when he did the review and/or did the testing, several patches may have been released in between

                                          Just found out the answer I was looking for:
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                                            raceaddict Bronze Member @Guest
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                                            @Hari-Seldon for sure, but 3/4 days aod w/ 1h of training per day seems to align with 5 days w/o as indicated by Suunto. Other reviewers talked about a week of battery life with some training in gesture mode, also in line with the 9 days w/o given by Suunto.
                                            All seems coherent. It is in the ballpark of Epix pro 42mm, and with a battery life during exercise two or three times better, so still very competitive.

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