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    • TieutieuT Offline
      Tieutieu Platinum Member
      last edited by

      Complementary feedback of my SRs : after first full charge battery drains way faster. Strange, I didn’t changed any settings. Let’s see how it evolves.

      Suunto’s devices at home :
      Vertical titanium solar
      Suunto Race S
      S9pp titanium sand
      Suunto Wing
      S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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        Luis Andés Olmedo Bronze Member
        last edited by

        Some feedback regarding the SRs that my wife is testing since one week ago to check if it would be a good replacement for her Fenix 6s pro:

        • AOD: Off

        • Sleep track: Off (she does not care about that metric)

        • 24/7 HR: Off (she does not care about that metric)

        • Mobile notifications: Off (she does not care about that info)

        • Average battery consumption per hour of GPS: 3%-4% (The Fenix 6s pro consumes 10% per hour)

        • Battery consumption in 7 days (4h running with GPS + 1h strength workout no GPS) : 50%

        Obviously she decided to sell the Fenix 6s Pro and keep the Suunto.

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        • wmichiW Offline
          wmichi @Stoke80
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          @Stoke80 I have just received the new watch. It’s a difference like day and night. The crown on the new watch does not feel at all “stiff” and can be easily rotated with one finger, just like it’s supposed to be. Now I am really happy with my purchasement 🙂

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          • Stoke80S Offline
            Stoke80 @wmichi
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            @wmichi

            Thank you for the info. How easy does it feel now? I am somewhat undecided if mine is really „bad“.
            I don‘t have that noise you had. But I really need to put pressure from the top on the crown to rotate it. Or I need to take two fingers so that the watch does not move on the wrist.

            Suunto Quest / Suunto Ambit 3 Peak / Sununto Spartan Sport Wrist HR / Suunto 9 Baro / Suunto 9 Peak Pro / Suunto Vertical / Suunto Race S

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            • wmichiW Offline
              wmichi @Stoke80
              last edited by wmichi

              @Stoke80 It’s hard to describe. It rotates smoothly and easily with one finger. I can scroll through the widgets even easier and faster than on the normal Race (faster because the crown is smaller). And I don’t need any pressure, I just put the finger gently on the crown and move the finger. At the same time it’s very precise. Also sweaty hands make no difference. There is a little resistance, so that the crown doesn’t move by itself. But it feels very well balanced.

              You could contact support and ask what to do. I highly doubt it, that Suunto designed this watch in a way, that a user would need two fingers to operate the digital crown. I would ask for a replacement, refund or repair, if you are not satisfied.

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              • Stoke80S Offline
                Stoke80 @wmichi
                last edited by

                @wmichi

                Thank you. Will contact support.

                Suunto Quest / Suunto Ambit 3 Peak / Sununto Spartan Sport Wrist HR / Suunto 9 Baro / Suunto 9 Peak Pro / Suunto Vertical / Suunto Race S

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                • yome77Y Offline
                  yome77
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                  Hello
                  For my part I have had the vertical for a year and I am very happy with it but seeing the arrival of the race and race s watches I ask myself a question:
                  Does anyone know why the sleep monitoring is different between the vertical and race/race s. And will the sleep phases ever be available on the vertical
                  Thanks

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                  • Mff73M Offline
                    Mff73 @yome77
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                    @yome77
                    https://forum.suunto.com/post/131343

                    Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                    Suunto Vertical all black
                    Wife : S9PP
                    SA: Always the latest beta :)
                    Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                    • TieutieuT Offline
                      Tieutieu Platinum Member
                      last edited by Tieutieu

                      I just received my vertical from support (repair was very fast - send Monday, repaired Thursday, send back Friday ! ). Now I’ll have to deal between SRs and my vertical. I’ll probably use the race S most of the time for sleep tracking (I love the sleep phases tracking and its small size), and for small races or training when I don’t want to use hr belt…but the Vertical remains my dream watch. It’s just awesomely good looking and with so huge battery life ! But SRs really rocks ! If next top of the line gen of watch brings amoled screen with vertical battery life, it will be mine for sure !

                      Suunto’s devices at home :
                      Vertical titanium solar
                      Suunto Race S
                      S9pp titanium sand
                      Suunto Wing
                      S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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                        Luis Andés Olmedo Bronze Member @Luis Andés Olmedo
                        last edited by

                        @Luis-Andés-Olmedo said in Race S vs Vertical:

                        Some feedback regarding the SRs that my wife is testing since one week ago to check if it would be a good replacement for her Fenix 6s pro:

                        • AOD: Off

                        • Sleep track: Off (she does not care about that metric)

                        • 24/7 HR: Off (she does not care about that metric)

                        • Mobile notifications: Off (she does not care about that info)

                        • Average battery consumption per hour of GPS: 3%-4% (The Fenix 6s pro consumes 10% per hour)

                        • Battery consumption in 7 days (4h running with GPS + 1h strength workout no GPS) : 50%

                        Obviously she decided to sell the Fenix 6s Pro and keep the Suunto.

                        I quote myself to mention that my wife charged the Race S yesterday with 23% (today she had to do her long run of the week) after 10 days… very very good.

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                        • TieutieuT Offline
                          Tieutieu Platinum Member
                          last edited by

                          By the way : is there a chance that sleep phases and nap finally arrive on SV ?

                          Suunto’s devices at home :
                          Vertical titanium solar
                          Suunto Race S
                          S9pp titanium sand
                          Suunto Wing
                          S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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                          • ? Offline
                            A Former User @Tieutieu
                            last edited by

                            @Tieutieu https://forum.suunto.com/post/131343

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                            • jakubedziorJ Offline
                              jakubedzior
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                              Hi, I’ve read this post and it seems that everyone is talking mostly about hardware. I’m trying to decide between the 2 watches but have a few software-ish wondering-ments, perhaps someone would know? The most important one is:

                              Does the Race S have light/dark maps like the Race some time ago, or outdoor/high contrast/dark like the Vertical? I really like the outdoor and high contrast ones on vertical and would be disappointed if they aren’t available on the Race S.

                              Are the any other important software differences between the two? I only know for a fact that Race S does not have an option to set a custom battery mode, like the Vertical, but maybe there are more?

                              Btw, based on your, Race S users, experience, do you think the Race S’s battery would last enough for 15h training with best accuracy with navigation the whole time, notifications (and connection to the phone, if possible) turned off, AOD on, heart rate on?

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                              • isaziI Offline
                                isazi Moderator @jakubedzior
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                                @Jakub-Kędzior said in Race S vs Vertical:

                                Does the Race S have light/dark maps like the Race some time ago, or outdoor/high contrast/dark like the Vertical? I really like the outdoor and high contrast ones on vertical and would be disappointed if they aren’t available on the Race S.

                                Race S: light - dark - high contrast

                                Light is basically outdoor, but looks better on AMOLED, and dark is more battery friendly.

                                Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                Blog: isazi's home

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                                • Jan Van de VeldeJ Offline
                                  Jan Van de Velde Bronze Member @isazi
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                                  I just found this thread and would like to add my take on it. I owned a Vertical (Stainless Steel Non Solar) from almost the first day it was released. Throughout the first year and through several software updates, I saw it evolve from a good watch to an almost perfect watch. Then I lost it in the hustle of the mass start of triathlon… (don’t ask). Due to budgetary constraints I had to “settle” for the Race S (Stainless Steel).

                                  My thoughts on the topics raised here:
                                  • AMOLED vs MIP: the display of the Race S is very very beautiful and vibrant, perfectly readable in all conditions, but I do miss the genuine always-on-display of the Vertical. The always-on version of the AMOLED is just not the same…
                                  • Battery life: the vertical (even the non-solar) was great obviously, but the Race S is certainly sufficient for most purposes. For me it lasts about 4 days with all bells and whistles on (24h HR, sleep tracking, notification, AOD, etc.) with roughly 6 hours of GPS sports tracking during those days.
                                  • Optical HR sensor: I don’t notice a big difference. For everyday life the Vertical was good enough and for most sports I use an chest strap anyway (except for swimming, but there every watch I tested sucks).
                                  • Form factor: this is where the Race S excels for me. The smaller size, not only diameter and weight, but also specifically thickness, make it much more comfortable, especially during sleeping. As many here, I am hoping for a Vertical S, but probably this will not come.
                                  • Build quality: the Race S is very good, but I preferred the Vertical. Specifically the feedback from the buttons seemed better. I’m also not a fan of the crown wheel, although it does the trick… I am afraid of the Gorilla Glass. I managed to scratch all my gorilla glass watches up to now, I’m already mentally preparing for the first scratch on my Race S. The glass of the Vertical on the contrary was spotless until the last second. A small advantage of the Race S is that the slanted bezel seems more scratch resistant then the notched bezel of the Vertical, where sometimes the stainless steel started appearing in my case.
                                  • Software: I love the advanced sleep tracking and even though there is absolutely no scientific basis I study the result almost every morning. 🙂 I don’t like the absence of custom battery modes in the sport profiles. I would like to able to combine always-on-display with bad (or less good) GPS accuracy. I also would like the Race S to remember the last chosen battery mode for a given sport profile. A general annoyance for both watches was the inability to create a custom triathlon sport mode and the absence of other multisport modes like Ultrarunning or Swimrunning.

                                  So while I miss my Vertical, the Race S is a very decent replacement! If/when a vertical 2 comes out, I’m not sure what I would do.

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                                  • TieutieuT Offline
                                    Tieutieu Platinum Member @Jan Van de Velde
                                    last edited by Tieutieu

                                    @Jan-Van-de-Velde I own both (my SV was send to repair this summer and I couldn’t train without watch, so I bought the SRs).
                                    I share all your thoughts.
                                    If my SV had advanced sleep tracking (sleep phases), I would probalbly use it every day and night like before…
                                    But I now wear my SRs at night to have have sleep phases (and also because it’s lighter and smaller).
                                    Screen of the SRs is awesome, but I much prefer the touchscreen navigation between screens of my SV. Build quality is great on both even if SV is nicer to me (plus sapphire and Ti)

                                    Let’s see what Suunto will bring us in the future, but no need to be a genius : next generations of watches will improve amoled watches battery life, and we’ll see OHR and other mesurements tracking improvements.

                                    For now, SV + SRs is a “luxury” but lovely combination !

                                    Suunto’s devices at home :
                                    Vertical titanium solar
                                    Suunto Race S
                                    S9pp titanium sand
                                    Suunto Wing
                                    S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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                                    • Mathieu MerletM Offline
                                      Mathieu Merlet
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                                      After different years using Garmin devices I have tried Suunto and I prefer. But know I am not able to make a decision between Race S titanium and Vertical not solar (same price). I have both in this moment and I found the MIP and dimension display of the Vertical very good and useful during outdoor activities, while the amoled screen is very beautiful but I am not convinced that will be good under the sun on a bike handlebar (I can’t test due to meteo). Also, battery life is important and Vertical win! But the tiny dimension of Race s is awesome at work.

                                      I think both watches are excellent, but in terms of updates and durability what do you think?
                                      I am not a professional athlete, I do trail run/bike/run/hike, more or less one activity per day (1 hour) and in the weekend longer activities.
                                      What are your advices?

                                      Sorry for my English

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                                      • EgikaE Offline
                                        Egika Platinum Member @Mathieu Merlet
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                                        @Mathieu-Merlet good points!
                                        These are exactly the reason why I have both watches.
                                        Vertical is with me on longer or multi-day activities, while I a wearing Race S during the days with less activities or in the office.

                                        If bike handlebar is a regular use case for you, I’d say that this leads to Vertical for you, as the always-on display of Race S in map view is limited.

                                        t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                        Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                                        • Mathieu MerletM Offline
                                          Mathieu Merlet @Egika
                                          last edited by

                                          @Egika in terms of updates they can be supposed to be similar?
                                          I can keep only one of these two watches unfortunately…

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                                          • cosme.costaC Offline
                                            cosme.costa @Mathieu Merlet
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                                            @Mathieu-Merlet For your case of use I would choose the SV (If you can’t keep both 😁 )

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