@timecode yes, it has to be something like that. Old picture … but I was confused as she didn’t look that much younger on the picture

@Jan-Van-de-Velde I own both (my SV was send to repair this summer and I couldn’t train without watch, so I bought the SRs).
I share all your thoughts.
If my SV had advanced sleep tracking (sleep phases), I would probalbly use it every day and night like before…
But I now wear my SRs at night to have have sleep phases (and also because it’s lighter and smaller).
Screen of the SRs is awesome, but I much prefer the touchscreen navigation between screens of my SV. Build quality is great on both event SV nicer to me (plus sapphire and Ti)

Let’s see what Suunto will bring us in the future, but no need to be a genius : next generations of watches will improve amoled watches battery life, and we’ll see OHR and other mesurements tracking improvements.

For now, SV + SRs is a “luxury” but lovely combination !

@disadisa Is the wifi working now on your race S with the new software update?

@krzysMac means clear sky, that’s pretty normal

@Brad_Olwin I hope it will be made in near future. With new OHR a Race S form factor and MIP and TI and Saphire. Solar is for me not necessary I will decide then if I replace my S9PP with one of these. Anyway, after ZoneSene launch is OHR even less important for me in training. Unfortunately ZoneSense is in the moment for me big mystery… Sometimes I feel that it does the job as expected, and sometimes I’m sure it does not. But for this topic we have different thread here 🙂 .

Step counting is too short even during running and walking. With Garmin I used to consistently average about 15-17K steps per day. With Suunto Race S, with similar activity, my average number of steps in the last 8 weeks is 12.2K. That is definitely too short!

@GiPFELKiND man your reactions are like you really don’t like Suunto, yet you end up buying every Suunto watch. Why is that?

@Egika said in Race S Tempting Me Back Into Suunto...:

@VoiGAS yes, he was referring to battery saving mode.
Back in Ambit times, the low power GPS indeed was not really accurate. You could select between 1s, 5s and 60s fix rate.

Yes, it was the 5s mode. Down in the canyons it started to glitch measuring the distance really long and by the end of the race it was doubling the distance, consistently adding 0.01 mile for every 10 steps. Somehow it ended up adding distance from GPS and distance from accelerometer together, which resulted in doubling the distance.

Ambit wasn’t as accurate as people think. Yes, at the time it was one of the most accurate watches - thanks to its large GPS antenna. But recently I compared an Ambit 3 Peak track from some years ago against a recent track from Garmin Fenix 7X recorded with multi-band mode. The difference was like day and night - Garmin with dual band was so much more accurate around curves and switchbacks following the trail perfectly. I also think that the Airoha GNSS chipset that was used in Fenix 7 is more accurate than the new Sony chipset used in Race S. The distance is similar, in fact Suunto Race S distance tends to be a tiny bit longer, but Garmin’s track seems to be more precise. Unfortunately Garmin seems to have switched to the new Sony chipset too.

@sracer agree. My biggest annoyance after the charger, which thankfully you don’t need very often is the lack of font sizes.

I think I can only give one watch face with seconds on it I can read without glasses 🤷🏻‍♂️

Do love the vertical, had it over a year now and it has been my companion for many hours and miles but wish they would consider older folk with font size🤷🏻‍♂️

Admittedly, I use a Suunto Vertical, but I can see that the problems associated with swimming are common. A while ago I commented on another post on the topic, link here: https://forum.suunto.com/post/164078
I wrote there, among other things, that swim monitoring is the absolute weakest point in Suunto watches. This is my personal experience, but reading others, I have no doubt that I share the opinion of other swimming users. Almost everything works badly here, and the most important: counting the swum lengths of the pool, recognizing styles, completely ignoring other exercises in the water. So there is no point in complaining, because there are only two ways out in such a situation. Hope that Suunto will finally do something about it, or buy a watch that better monitors swimmers’ workouts. I write this with all new Suunto watch users in mind, because I remember my own frustration about two years ago.

@Rowwen1972 🙄yes until today no lactat Treshhold.

@RightNow that’s a shame you’ve had bad experience with them: I only have good CS experience with them, they have yet to blame me for anything. Doesn’t everyone run with a trundle wheel…?

@far-blue no laces, interesting, though. I hadn’t thought of that.

@Richard-McGlory we ‘swapped the pods’: what was 1, is now 2, and the elevation profile is back. Key point: data from the pod overwrites data from the watch, every time, confirmed by their support. I imagine all that’s retained is the HR and GNSS track.

@brechtvb I’d really recommend an external HR device for any sport such as running or cycling, especially gravel bike or mountain bike. The well respected Reviewer DC Rainmaker basically finds watch OHR never performs well when there’s a lot of movement/vibration. Coospo do some pretty cheap but decent belts and armband OHR sensors (although with optical you won’t be able to use ZoneSense) or there’s the well known manufacturers such as Suunto’s own belt, Wahoo, Polar and Garmin.

Wrist based OHR is fine for everyday and good enough for aerobics, spin classes or rowing machine but for anything more it’s worth the external sensor 🙂

@off242 just used it yesterday with no issues.

here again it is not tracking sleep data.
it all started when battery was completely drained during the night. Since then it does not work decent anymore.

@Jeffrey-Tillack Suunto has a wonderful Courtney Dawaulter edition of the Race S!

@Dragan There are six in-depth videos demonstrating that it’s 100% reliable, proven, effective, and efficient — all validated by solid research. RPE, which is widely used by elite athletes to manage training intensity through internal perception, is the closest proxy to what ZoneSense captures. That said, I fully respect those who feel they’re losing touch with familiar methods. Sticking with what makes training enjoyable is part of what keeps sport meaningful.

@Yurii-Hultiaiev

here may be the explanation

@pavel-samokha said in Suunto Vertical won’t update from 2.30.38 to recent update:

There was technical issue in the cloud, please try again

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@Brad_Olwin yes but I’m unsure currently how to get it right. I have another issue in that I can’t record Stryd Air Power unless I use the Suunto Stryd app but I don’t seem to be able to use that app to execute planned workouts from TrainingPeaks.

It’s all quote fussy in comparison to what I’m used to.