@Lazyjones Do you mean something different from the bottom bar that you can click to open and see the elevation changes of the route?

@sniemi I haven’t had any issues but Zonesence is now native I believe. It is an option when you start the activity. This may be causing the issue?

@Freezer these mentionned last 2 nights were good and inside range 35-42 but each time, the summary was “take ccare your HRV is upper than usual” which is the opposite of green rods Another example : This night my HRV was under the range because of a bad night and my watch said “well your HRV is normal” while the histogram has indicates a red bar In my mind this behavior is weird, right ?

I have a similarly suspicious HR output from a pool swim yesterday. [image: 1768420859900-screenshot_20260114_145808_suunto.jpg]

Just in case it could help, I added my vote too for Soon

@duffman19 Thanks for your comment. Yes, I take the AI’s results with a grain of salt. The thing is, what it indicates aligns very closely with my feelings and what I’ve seen in Race 2. It’s clear that nowadays "sport/smart"watch users are more concerned with the accuracy of the optical sensor, clean tracks, health features and watchfaces, rather than the absolute precision of GPS metrics like they were a few years ago. DC_Rainmaker himself no longer shows distance comparisons in his reviews to test GPS accuracy between watches, only images of the tracks to see if they are clean. We now take for granted that this data has reached an incredible level of accuracy, that all brands are there, and people are looking for other things. In my case, it’s a bit of “occupational hazard” and a desire to investigate further and learn during the process. Maybe with more activities the GPS+Acelerometer twin will be more aligned with my Vertical and RaceS data. I’ve been using Race 2 only for two weeks now. We’ll see how evolves. Hope you find this thread interesting

The past Sunday I had a short snowshoes hike and realized that it’s really a pity that the avalanche map isn’t available directly on the watch. Notwithstanding all the above discussed limitations, it gives a zero-level information on the potentially dangerous areas and it would be helpful especially if you are forced to change your planned itinerary. [image: 1768398087756-screenshot_20260114-141033.png]

@Kraisun-Tunta said in Recovery watch & App: Even with this new firmware, the datat feature still requires a sync to app before showing on the watch. This needs to be calculated on-device just like any other feature like training , sleep, hrv status, training status etc. Having to sync to app defeats the point of having an independent watch. Not sure if I understand you correctly. I thought that basic calculations are happening on the watch, and the more sophisticated ones in the app (therefore, sync is needed). And having the data sync with the app keeps the history and reports possible. However, if I have such different values for metrics like Recovery, TSS, and Resources, those values become unusable. Which ones are the correct ones? And having different values in iOS and iPadOS is even worse (both refreshed) - it should be using server data, right? I have never experienced a difference in values (unit vs app) at other brands. A bit disappointing, especially as I like the HW.

Workaround (if possible to be implemented) would be to have some labels of certain contour lines. That would be a great improvement IMO 🤩

@Mff73 Both Information are from the same night - i did not manually start it!

I have a Race S, and I tried everything you mentioned here, but it still isn’t working for me. In my case, it started on the 1st day of the year… I hope there will be a fix soon. I liked the sleep summary in the morning.

also forgot to mention I noticed that share from suunto app doesn’t work well… so if you want to share this app to your friends - you could use this link - https://splus.athletica.one/parkrun i opens the parkrun page directly in suunto app if it installed or just show the web version of app page.

A litte update from my side. Yesterday I did another run where I connected my Race S to the Polar H10, and I worn the watch straight on my wrist. I didn’t lose any connection. I have my wrist HR turned off, so it should not show my wrist HR. To be 100% sure of that, I will run today with the H10 connected to both my watch and the Polar app, and will compare HR readings afterwards.

@Tsarit Exciting What do you see when you display the bottle pressure and gas consumption? Do you also get a diagram like that? Please excuse me, mine is in German Blue = pressure Grey/black = gas consumption [image: 1768379936657-screenshot_20260114_093502_suunto.jpg]

@Steven-Hambleton this is one reason why I moved back to vertical 1 from Amoled since the watchface when dimmed the font are outside in sun unusable with today’s small fonts.

I am never powering off any of my watches. They go into DND if I don’t need them. Plus when they sit on the shelf, they go into some super low power mode so that the battery last weeks. Still there might be more people using power off than demo, but I guess there are not many at all. Do you think the most used menu items should be at the top and at the bottom of a list?

@MarkusG Strava Live Segments guide is no longer available for custom sport profiles too. According to @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos , the same workaround - adding intervals data screen - should help with Strava Live Segments too, but that is a very silly workaround since Strava Live Segments feature has nothing to do with workouts, and that uses one of the 3 available data screens.