@sky-runner If you don’t mind sharing, where are you running? I’m in North America and I’ve found the background elevation data in the Suunto App to be pretty poor. It doesn’t feel as granular as other apps I’ve used, often giving me straight line elevation changes where there should be obvious rolling hills. However, I planned some routes in the UK last summer and was surprised by how much more accurate the elevation data was for that area. Perhaps sub-par elevation data is partly to blame for our experience with CG? Further, climb guidance just doesn’t feel as though it was designed for the terrain I run on - rolling hills with often short, steep climbs. In the valley where I live, the steepest climbs are 10-12% over 0.5-0.75 mile. These certainly feel like climbs to me, but I’ve yet to have Suunto label one as such on any route in my area. I agree with almost all of your assessments regarding CG. Seems it was designed for more mountainous terrain with longer climbs and descents. I haven’t found it useful in my area and simply don’t use it anymore. I think Garmin still has the edge here.

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@ChunkNorris and? how does it work!

For me, the sleep data recording isn’t working reliably either. For whatever reason, my bedtime is set and I wear the watch normally. I wish there was a way to at least manually correct this, because the entire recovery calculation isn’t accurate. I hope for a function in the app to add the missing sleep manually: https://forum.suunto.com/topic/13267/add-sleep-manually

When using the live app I also sometimes loose belt and other sensor connections. I reported this to the team fyi and sent logs.

@BrunoH thanks for your replay and I guess you are right. I’ll just have to wait for the successor of the vertical come. Thanks.

@sky-runner said in Auto-detected lactate threshold is horribly wrong: So clearly at least something isn’t right No, it is an obvious bug somewhere, but not something I’ve encountered with my Race S and the Android version of the Suunto app. Here is the latest aerobic number: [image: 1751778407701-1000008243.jpg] [image: 1751778439457-1000008245.jpg] And the whole week has been spot on, reflecting coming back after a small injury, with dropping aerobic conditioning and a few days of unbearable temperatures followed by rainy ones. Trying to do ‘easy’ trail runs of around one hour (except the last one which was a village run of 32 minutes): “Measured” “Aerobic threshold” 140 bpm 20.1C–20.9C ZS Green 67% Yellow 33% 146 bpm 26.4C–28.6C ZS Green 74% Yellow 26% 144 bpm 16.1C–16.0C ZS Green 81% Yellow 19% 141 bpm 14.9C–14.7C ZS Green 86% Yellow 14% By the way, at least with the Race S there is no need to activate the S+ ZoneSense app in the watch. Everything is native as long as a HR strap is in use. The app only gives a nice graphical view of the effort level.

@benille You’d have to find the older firmware version. You could try to ask for a link and instructions in https://forum.suunto.com/topic/6836/firmware-collection

@maszop so can a shortcut be added to the right side of the watch’s home screen? (we can add widgets to the left side)

@ShinJCD said in Firmware 3.19.16: since 5 seconds are already more than enough Yep!

Thought it would be interessting to see what the Community expects Sure we all expected a great watch. But clearly decisions to buy the ocean are very different.

@elbee You are probably already aware but you can reconfigure the widgets so weather is accessed by one button push or set it as the ‘hit key’ so you can choose two really quick access widgets. I have weather as my first widget Also a long press on the complications on the watch face should open the widget to set alarm etc. I like the analogue watch face. Ready to read without glasses for my aging eyes 🫩

@Squirrel I don’t have this option to share as a video

I’ve done some more tests recently. It’s possible to add a completely newly designed or imported to SuuntoApp route to the watch during an activity. It doesn’t have to be saved in SuuntoApp beforehand. There are some problems with synchronization during an activity, but it works eventually. However, there’s a rather annoying bug when changing the route during an activity. During an ascent or descent, you can’t change it on the fly - there’s some conflict with Climb Guidance (black screen with X symbol on the watch). To get around this, you have to completely disable the current route (Breadcrumb option) and only then load a new route. I hope this gets fixed because I usually don’t have time to mess around in the field with such non-intuitive route changes.

@Alastair-Padgett said in Newbie ,happy to get any kind of help, advice or guidance : I hope you’re enjoying your new watch. Not sure what you mean with this statement: So with the intro in mind let me ask a few questions ,seemingly everyone is having issues with compatibility with MAC OSX ,and the two current software patches to allow updates and laptop based training work ? Can you explain how did you came to the conclusion that everyone has issues with MacOS compability? You should pair the watch with the either app on iOS or Android. I am also not aware of any laptop based training. I would also advise to read through the manual as a first step: https://ns.suunto.com/Manuals/Suunto_Vertical/Userguides//Suunto_Vertical_UserGuide_EN.pdf

@marcomonari Did you remove HR zone duration in SuuntoPlus option in the watch before launching the activity ? This seems to solve synch issue on my side (iOS and watch firmware 2.43.12). But the older activities done with HR zone SuuntoPlus selected are still blocked (I deleted them to clean Sync Problem pop up in the IPhone App)

@Egika Many thanks ️