@juancarlos, hi. Since HRV is more about trends than individual (granular) measurements, maybe the watch’s suggestion of HRV over/under is based on weekly (7d) trend and not on last night’s measurement.

@sniemi I’ve been using Race 2 for two weeks now, 10 outdoor activities (and several indoor, without GPS), using 2 Suunto+ Apps and H10 sensor connected. No reboots nor crashings during activities. I’ve only noticed that Raise to Wake starts failing after around 30min of activities and many times screen remains ON although arm is down. But still haven’t used Guides/Structured workouts. Have toy tried activities without Guides/Structured workouts? You can send ‘Comments’ to Suunto Support explaining the problem, or contact support via Chat.

@vinc14 I didn’t say you started measure manually. Just guessing : the widget may indicate the last unique measure (even automatic done during night) and the night summary is still the best guess of all night measures.

@Anders-Bornstedt you can use the gym timer Suunto plus app, which allows you to predefine timers before you start. I think there’s also a calisthenics app too specifically for that?

@emkei said in Recovery watch & App: @Kraisun-Tunta said in Recovery watch & App: Even with this new firmware, the datat feature still requires a sync to app before showing on the watch. This needs to be calculated on-device just like any other feature like training , sleep, hrv status, training status etc. Having to sync to app defeats the point of having an independent watch. Not sure if I understand you correctly. I thought that basic calculations are happening on the watch, and the more sophisticated ones in the app (therefore, sync is needed). And having the data sync with the app keeps the history and reports possible. However, if I have such different values for metrics like Recovery, TSS, and Resources, those values become unusable. Which ones are the correct ones? And having different values in iOS and iPadOS is even worse (both refreshed) - it should be using server data, right? I have never experienced a difference in values (unit vs app) at other brands. A bit disappointing, especially as I like the HW. I think the concern here is not about advanced analytics, but about basic post-activity summaries that should be available directly on the watch. For example, after a run, the watch itself should be able to summarize: Total duration Total distance Basic recovery / rest time indication These are fundamental metrics that are already recorded on-device during the activity. On the Suunto Race 2 (for example, on the watch face), I notice that after finishing a run, the data is not updated until I sync with the phone app. If I don’t sync, the watch face still shows old values. In real use, this is a bit problematic: Many of us run in parks or outdoors without carrying a phone After finishing the run, we naturally look at the watch expecting a quick summary Being forced to sync first breaks the idea of the watch being truly independent To be clear: I fully understand that more advanced training metrics (Training Load, TSS, long-term trends, deeper analysis) may require app-side or server-side calculations. That makes sense. But basic summaries like time, distance, and simple recovery indicators should be: Calculated on-device Immediately visible on the watch, without requiring a sync This is not meant as a comparison or criticism of other brands, but objectively speaking, many other sports watches can already do this on the watch itself. I really like the Suunto hardware and overall direction — this is just feedback on user experience. Improving on-device summaries would make the watch feel far more complete and independent.

@Lazyjones Do you mean something different from the bottom bar that you can click to open and see the elevation changes of the route?

I have a similarly suspicious HR output from a pool swim yesterday. [image: 1768420859900-screenshot_20260114_145808_suunto.jpg]

Just in case it could help, I added my vote too for Soon

@duffman19 Thanks for your comment. Yes, I take the AI’s results with a grain of salt. The thing is, what it indicates aligns very closely with my feelings and what I’ve seen in Race 2. It’s clear that nowadays "sport/smart"watch users are more concerned with the accuracy of the optical sensor, clean tracks, health features and watchfaces, rather than the absolute precision of GPS metrics like they were a few years ago. DC_Rainmaker himself no longer shows distance comparisons in his reviews to test GPS accuracy between watches, only images of the tracks to see if they are clean. We now take for granted that this data has reached an incredible level of accuracy, that all brands are there, and people are looking for other things. In my case, it’s a bit of “occupational hazard” and a desire to investigate further and learn during the process. Maybe with more activities the GPS+Acelerometer twin will be more aligned with my Vertical and RaceS data. I’ve been using Race 2 only for two weeks now. We’ll see how evolves. Hope you find this thread interesting

The past Sunday I had a short snowshoes hike and realized that it’s really a pity that the avalanche map isn’t available directly on the watch. Notwithstanding all the above discussed limitations, it gives a zero-level information on the potentially dangerous areas and it would be helpful especially if you are forced to change your planned itinerary. [image: 1768398087756-screenshot_20260114-141033.png]

Workaround (if possible to be implemented) would be to have some labels of certain contour lines. That would be a great improvement IMO 🤩

I have a Race S, and I tried everything you mentioned here, but it still isn’t working for me. In my case, it started on the 1st day of the year… I hope there will be a fix soon. I liked the sleep summary in the morning.

also forgot to mention I noticed that share from suunto app doesn’t work well… so if you want to share this app to your friends - you could use this link - https://splus.athletica.one/parkrun i opens the parkrun page directly in suunto app if it installed or just show the web version of app page.

A litte update from my side. Yesterday I did another run where I connected my Race S to the Polar H10, and I worn the watch straight on my wrist. I didn’t lose any connection. I have my wrist HR turned off, so it should not show my wrist HR. To be 100% sure of that, I will run today with the H10 connected to both my watch and the Polar app, and will compare HR readings afterwards.

@Tsarit Exciting What do you see when you display the bottle pressure and gas consumption? Do you also get a diagram like that? Please excuse me, mine is in German Blue = pressure Grey/black = gas consumption [image: 1768379936657-screenshot_20260114_093502_suunto.jpg]

@Steven-Hambleton this is one reason why I moved back to vertical 1 from Amoled since the watchface when dimmed the font are outside in sun unusable with today’s small fonts.

I am never powering off any of my watches. They go into DND if I don’t need them. Plus when they sit on the shelf, they go into some super low power mode so that the battery last weeks. Still there might be more people using power off than demo, but I guess there are not many at all. Do you think the most used menu items should be at the top and at the bottom of a list?

@MarkusG Strava Live Segments guide is no longer available for custom sport profiles too. According to @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos , the same workaround - adding intervals data screen - should help with Strava Live Segments too, but that is a very silly workaround since Strava Live Segments feature has nothing to do with workouts, and that uses one of the 3 available data screens.