I use the Race 2 with Wahoo HR strap and it works with no issues. The strap connects to my bike computer and the watch when I ride, or just to the watch when I XC ski.

@OutdoorMan this would be a workaround, but not a real solution. I would like to see an alarm that sounds a sound and vibrates to draw your attention to the fact that you reached (or exceeded) a target HR. I know that some of us want to reach a certain target zone when exercising, but some (other) of us need to watch the max HR (I don’t want to have a cardiac arrest when I am climbing ambitiously a hill on my bike ). Btw. it is available on many bike computers. On my Garmin Edge, the alarm will sound, but it is hardly noticeable (and the text does not even change colour). I am afraid that it is designed as an alert for reaching a target zone (as opposed to a real “ALARM” (“slow down or you will die” type).

@Audaxjoe Navigation and map should not be confused. These are two independent layers rendered one on top of another. Navigation can be used without a map as we have done for many years starting with Ambit series. Navigation track is rendered at any zoom level. Similarly, map can be used with or without navigation. I often use just map for quick exploration of when I know the area in general but may not remember some specific details. For example, here is a fairly common case for me case: I follow a trail and I remember that somewhere ahead there is a shortcut to another trail. I don’t have a preplanned navigation so I want to glance at the map from time to time to not miss that shortcut. The problem is that the radius of visibility is so short that I pretty much have to constantly look at the map to not miss that shortcut - I can’t see further than about 1 minute of running. So this kind of on the fly visual navigation is not really possible. Here is another example. Let’s say I do have a preplanned route, but for whatever reason I have to take a quick detour while having the original route in view and merge into the original route a bit further. Again, that is not possible because as soon as I zoom out just a little bit all the trails disappear from the map. So I can no longer use the watch map as a visual reference. This is more common than you might think because detours might be needed for a number of reasons - trail closure, decommissioned trails that I didn’t know about at the time of planning, a need to refill water, etc. To be honest, unless I have a preplanned navigation route and follow it exactly as planned without any deviation, using the map on my Suunto watch often frustrates me. I often have to stop and pull the phone and look at the map on the phone. I certainly almost never had to do that when I owned Garmin Fenix or even when I used Suunto Race prior to July 2025 update. This is the main reason I haven’t upgraded to Vertical 2 yet. At this point, weighing all factors, Suunto still continues being the best watch for me, but just because it is the best choice from multiple not so good choices. But if Garmin addresses the map rendering and orientation fluidity, I’ll likely switch back to Garmin. Similarly, if Coros releases a watch with a large AMOLED display with the battery life similar to Race 2 or Vertical 2, I’ll switch to Coros because Coros maps are better.

I had a problem with repeatedly connecting and disconnecting my Garmin chest strap, but all I had to do was turn off encryption on it.

@Squirrel OMG! Laughing to keep from crying. ‍️

@sky-runner Thank you for your response. I couldn’t react since I can’t log in on my phone. I was away a few days. I didn’t use snap to route. I was just following my route and decided to go different. I just ignored my watch and didn’t change a thing. Battery mode was performance mode. Hopefully I’ll do another run the next days. But these are busy days

@gerasimos said in Suunto Vertical factory silicone strap wear and tear: I’ve had the Suunto Vertical for about 2.5 years with the original silicone strap, but I’ve noticed significantly more wear and tear than expected, especially compared to the silicone straps on older models like the Suunto 9 I used to have. I don’t wear it for daily use…I only use it during activities, involving quite a bit of sea during the summers and mountains in the winter. Has any other user noticed similar wear on their straps?" wow. mine has also worn out a bit and I am now using Suunto 22mm Explore 1 Textile Strap which is rock solid [image: 1766946158743-aeb13578-5e16-4535-9e37-5d547390d578-image.png]

@aplatonovs any newer watch than 9PP is a better choice. I bought a Race S for my wife as a replacement for 9PP and she couldn’t be more happier. No issues with the watch.

In my last training sessions this problem has come up, and I don’t know why. I haven’t changed or configured anything, and suddenly this started happening. When I try it at home while standing still, there’s no issue, but when I go out running in free mode, the screen doesn’t turn on when I move my arm. I can’t find the reason or the solution.

@Olaf-Gottschalk

I had this problem, but could not re-create it since Dec 15. I had six alpine skiing activities since, three or four XC skiing, a bunch (almost every day) indoor exercises, and a walk. At the end of every alpine skiing I check for the problem (to send the logs, potentially), but it did not happen again.

@Audaxjoe correct; you can “force stop” the app (SA) and it helps. Btw. I had this problem for a while, but it disappeared around two weeks ago. Maybe, the new version of SA solved it

Hey same here also with a Redmi note 9 pro, MIUI 14.0.5 and android 12SKQ 1.211019.001.

Just to throw a thought in here, as a (newly minted) Run user: the barometer field needs some help. In Imperial units (which I as American have a love hate relationship with) it shows to the ones place for inHg—literally useless information because it would be the equivalent of showing only to the hundreds place hPa! And whats worse, the barometer trendline (far more useful, and a staple of suunto watches across decades of product lines) isn’t an option at all, despite showing up in the preview (alongside value, in the same field) for “Concentric Analog”. Not sure if that could be fixed faster since it applies uniformly to all existing watchfaces, but man alive is it annoying… As for needing new designs, I agree with many on this thread that have pointed out a lot of the designs work quite well, and a lot of it comes down to taste. However, as the OP pointed out, there’s some very minor tweaks that could help tremendously, including functional changes like my above noted barometer problem…

@Patrick-RS Are you sure that no other device (e.g. your Wahoo Elemnt) is connected to your power meter via Bluetooth before you try to pair your power meter to your Suunto? This power meter only supports one active Bluetooth connection.

@tuxbuster said in Desktop route planner thoughts: But it’s a great tool for planning on desktop I’ve been running iOS Suunto app, including route editor, in full screen mode on a MacBook laptop. So that is an alternative option. Usually I plan a route on laptop and save it, then simply force a sync on my phone, and the route gets synced to the watch via the cloud. There is no need to manually copy any files, so the experience is even more streamlined than with the web route planner. Also, Android Suunto app should run on Chromebook and offer a similar experience, and it might be possible to run it on Windows OS or at least it was possible in the past. Alternatively, if you are a Strava user, integration with Strava route editor is equally streamlined. Basically, I add a route on Strava and save it. Then I force sync in the Suunto app on the phone, and Suunto app pulls it directly from Strava and syncs it to the watch. Very simple!