Hi, Thank you for explanation. I agree with you that there are other specialized devices for this. I just thought of that because Garmin offers this on its watches, the Fenix ​​and Enduro series, if I’m not mistaken. But ok maybe someday. Thank you.

@bubuche I would use Runalyze or another external platform for that. Now I‘ve been using the latest updates for a bit, I think we‘re there. I thought about using predicted wind from the weather app, but you end up losing accuracy as soon as buildings are involved. I will look at using the accelerometer perhaps, but felt it was overkill when I started with this app. It might solve the grade latency issue though. I‘ll play around with it at some point.

@Manta for the Suunto plus app you have to compile and transfer this: https://github.com/SellA/BoschEBikeSuunto In my opinion however this is not convenient since you have to do it from the pc and, everytime you sync with the Suunto App on the phone, it will be erased. That’s a “stupid” limitation on the Suunto plus app that are not official distributed trough the mainline channel. I find myself perfectly happy with the ESP32 firmware flashed and set to POWER+CADENCE mode where i get the Cadence in RPM and Power in WATT. This is done trough standard communication like all other sensors and can be used without a custom plus app in the watch. And moreover, the power and cadence data will be used for Suunto internal algorithm, they are also correctly mapped to Strava if you have it. I’ve connected my board directly to the motor for getting power (using a DC-DC converter to step down the voltage from 12V to 3,3V) and it turns on directly with the ebike. Low power port (LPP) is used in my bike for the magnet sensor of the back wheel so i’ve connected it to the High power port (HPP). If you need further info just drop me a mail theray2189@gmail.com . I’ll try to help you to set things up if needed.

Hello, I have a question about the S+ aerobic decoupling. Suunto excludes the first 10 minutes and uses the following 10 minutes for calibration. During the run AD values ranged from 3% to 8%. At the end, the calculated AD was 16%. I’ve tried doing the same calculation myself and got the following results: entire interval: Pw:Hr 8.49% Pa:Hr 8.37% excluding the warm-up (10 minutes): Pw:Hr 4.35% Pa:Hr 4.45% Pa:Hr -> EF (Efficiency Factor) = average speed (m/s) / average heart rate (bpm) Pw:Hr -> EF_power = average power (Watts) / average heart rate (bpm) % AD = (EF_1st_half − EF_2nd_half) / EF_1st_half × 100 In both cases AD is far from 16%. Some hint?

@BRogers80 You probably already caught this, but there is now a Tymewear unofficial S+ app that you can install on the watch. [image: 1784694310735-62c807a0-8b21-47fc-9b77-2f83d40c41e1-image.jpeg]

@Nikolai-Simonov I just submitted two screenshand associated SIDs to the support email. 2 recent 5 mile runs are getting truncated shortly after starting. Duration is saved correctly but pace and distance way off. Vertical 1 Ti Solar with current FW and app Suunto App latest beta LiveT app updated. Happened July 8 and today. [image: 1784428310346-img_1837.jpeg] [image: 1784428310392-img_1836.png]

@sky-runner A couple of days ago I successfully used the Live Segments S+ guide on a trail running segment I have never run before (and got a KOM). Watch is Race 2 with the recent Q2 update - 2.56.18 and everything worked as expected. Last month, on the previous SW version, I had 2 unsuccessful attempts for different segments. For the first one the watch did not detect the start of the segment. For the second one it (wrongly) determined that I had went off course and stopped tracking the segment halfway through.

@Łukasz-Szmigiel Thank you. I’ll try using it now.

@snow Yes. A known issue for all android users. Recommended bypass is to activate floating keyboard, that will allow you to push the keyboard to the top of the phone screen.

@larrybbaker Yes, that was my intention (at least listing it in the info), so I’ll provide an update. Numbers will be accurate as they have nothing to do with the gauge. I will have a look to see whether it is possible to remove the gauge rendering from V1-watches as well. It seems there are methods for this. Thanks for the update!

Thank you for this, this is certainly a step up for strength training experience on Suunto. And good point on N.B. regarding the touchscreen! I had a senior moment and forgot that you need to access custom battery mode for it

Ok, I see… Thanks for the explanation.

An app like this would be super useful for planning longer ultramarathons on trails where the terrain is always variable. I did a similar plan many times where I try to come up with a target time for each aid station on the race course and then during the race see how I perform against that - whether I am ahead or behind the plan. The main problem is that as long as segments are based on distances, they aren’t going to be accurate and often deviate towards the end of the race. Perhaps for officially measured road races distances are accurate, but for trail races they are usually not. Towards the end of a race, distance that you have on your watch can easy be up to 5% off from the official distance, depending how accurately the official race distance was measured. Often, tace officials just use distance from CalTopo or other online mapping tool, and that is often way too short. It would be super nice if segments were defined by waypoints on the navigation route and if Suunto supported an extension of navigation route that allows including timestamps. That would allow building on the estimated pacing plan right into the navigation route. Garmin does actually have that and the Pace Pro feature utilizes that, and some 3rd part tools like Ultrapacer can generate a plan that can be loaded on a Garmin watch. I think a feature like this should be built-in, or at least have some built-in support - like an ability to load a timed GPX (GPX with relative timestamps) and tell you how much you are ahead of behind when following the route. Then more advanced apps could be built on top of that.

@SergHi ioB I have exactly the same issue!!

@stavrogin - Third party own the data that is displayed on their imported workouts on Suunto, for TP there’s this ER idea to add the step counter, feel free to vote for it. https://peaksware.uservoice.com/forums/106657-trainingpeaks-customer-feedback/suggestions/46005451-interval-counter-on-suunto-s-structured-workouts Adding to my previous post, after disabling the auto lap, you can setup your own screens to see avg numbers for whatever metric you want and it’ll be for that step of the workout. But definitely you cannot see what step you’re on with TP workouts, until TP implements above idea. On your question about undoing a manual lap, it’s not possible, and when doing a manual lap while executing a workout from TP or any other place, it’ll skip the current step. This is by design and cannot be altered. With that said, Training Peaks has the best screen for executing structured works, the only missing piece is the step count in my opinion

@Francesco-Pagano I’ve tried it today on a run with a steep climb and a long descent (too steep for me to run in any case). I may be wrong but my understanding was that ideally you should try to stay in the ‘Hold’ zone regardless of steepness - ie a steady sustainable level of effort. If it goes to ‘Push’ then I think you have let the level of effort drift down (and vice versa - ‘Ease’ probably means you are pushing too hard to sustain for long). I found I could usually stay in the ‘Hold’ position whether running on the less steep sections or walking hard on the unrunnable portions. On the long descent I found by pushing hard I could just about stay there - easing off quickly dropped to ‘Push’ I felt like I’d had a strong run and it encouraged me to keep trying and not drift off admiring the scenery. I suspect this is aimed at race pace sessions up to perhaps middle distance? I don’t think it’s intended for Z2 long runs for example. One thing I don’t understand is the score in the app afterwards - is this the % of the session spent in ‘Hold’?

@Thibault-B. I’m really excited to use this watchface, as a new Suunto user. Can you please explain this like I’m 5? Lol I have the watchface on my watch now (I think). What are the steps to starting to use it? Warm up on my own, and then start an interval? Or is it all one workout? Sorry for the elementary question here, but I’m so frustrated with the current interval screens on Suunto and I’m so excited to try this!

What are the main differences between this and the ‘Ghost runner’, are they essentially the same?