@aiv4r said in Sleep analysis:
@raven i fully agree with you, I would glady pay less for Suunto without AI coach and resources and recovery stuff, I am fine with sleep detection, since it is nice to follow HR and HRV trends during the night. But other than that there are not many watches left that does not have this. Coros so far stay little immune from nonsence, but for how long, because market clearly want these features.
It’s tricky. I do value overnight HRV, for example, and I also like knowing both total sleep time as well as interruptions. Sometimes my body wakes me in the middle of the night, and sometimes my cats do. While I have some idea of this duration the next day, I’m not going to write down notes on it, so it’s good I have devices that can do this. I don’t generally need this data but occasionally I do.
Last year I had an injury while weightlifting and needed some therapy and a few weeks recovery time to get back on track. The first few days after the injury I couldn’t sleep at all, averaging less than two hours uninterrupted sleep at a time. Having sleep data for this recovery period was good for me, as I shared it with my doctor for analysis.
However, the data I used was from Apple and not Suunto. Apple more accurately notes my sleep interruptions and Suunto tends to ignore them. Meanwhile, Apple only records HRV a few times a night, and (I hope) Suunto does more sampling. This is difficulty to say, as I get an overnight average for HRV, but as far as I know, there’s no way for me to find how many samples were taken and those individual values. Right now I wear both devices as it’s not a bother to do so and I might find the data interesting. Do I need the data? Not especially, most of the time. When I do look at it though, I want it to be as correct as possible.
Overall though, my thoughts are sleep data in general doesn’t need to be part of my main watch. Garmin has a “Garmin Sleep Index” screenless device meant only for night use. It seems to me more companies should do this. For example, Apple were to release such a thing, then Apple Watch users could use that for sleep, and this would immediately solve any battery life issues people have with that for say 90% of the population (only ultra endurance people, etc. would still have a quarrel in my mind). What Garmin doesn’t have yet is a “day only” watch that doesn’t try to do sleeping (pointing people to the index) at a cheaper price point.
So “divorcing” sleep metrics from the main watch seems reasonable to me. Have Suunto day watches meant for tracking your main sessions and daytime activity. Take it off at night, and for those who want overnight data, put on a secondary device that does this better with ideally pristine metrics. There’d be no call to ignore sleep data for a sleep device like we see in this thread.
