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FusedTrack works great - for 16 Minutes or 2,5km

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    Mff73 @VoiGAS
    last edited by 1 Jul 2024, 18:02

    @VoiGAS
    @Łukasz-Szmigiel
    OK, my bad.

    Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
    Suunto Vertical all black
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      VoiGAS Silver Members @isazi
      last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 07:01

      @isazi Tried again in Endurance Mode, same behaviour: Only straight lines, no FusedTrack effect. I compared it to online reviews, there it is not perfect - but its doing something.
      Could it be a defect? Compass works, at least in standalone mode


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        Łukasz Szmigiel @VoiGAS
        last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 08:05

        @VoiGAS did you register a normal run with Performance mode before? So that the watch got calibrated for your moves?

        S9PP 2.40.38

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          VoiGAS Silver Members @Łukasz Szmigiel
          last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 08:19

          @Łukasz-Szmigiel Yes, a lot. Really strange


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            isazi Moderator @VoiGAS
            last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 08:20

            @VoiGAS and this is running right, not cycling?

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              VoiGAS Silver Members @isazi
              last edited by VoiGAS 7 Feb 2024, 08:42 2 Jul 2024, 08:27

              @isazi Yes, and I just counted the “jumps” in the track - it is just one position marker per minute, nothing in between 😞
              I read the watch should request a compass calibration when Endurance mode is chosen. I never had a message like this


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                isazi Moderator @VoiGAS
                last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 08:42

                @VoiGAS did you already try to reboot your watch?

                Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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                  VoiGAS Silver Members @isazi
                  last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 08:43

                  @isazi No, I will try that


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                    Łukasz Szmigiel
                    last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 09:46

                    As far as I’m aware - this should always work for running activities in Endurance and Ultra if the watch has calibrated wrist movement to GPS, which typically takes one 15+ minutes run in Performance mode.

                    @isazi, will such data get refreshed with only a soft-reset?

                    S9PP 2.40.38

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                      isazi Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
                      last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 10:01

                      @Łukasz-Szmigiel I would say that a reboot is the first step, then maybe a factory reset could be necessary. Hopefully not.

                      Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                      Blog: isazi's home

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                        VoiGAS Silver Members @isazi
                        last edited by VoiGAS 7 Feb 2024, 12:07 2 Jul 2024, 10:40

                        @isazi ok, so Soft Reset + AGPS Sync (then wait 15 Minutes) + 15 Minutes Performance Run to calibrate + Compass Calibration + Endurance Run is the way to go . This will be one of my most intense training weeks 😀


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                          Łukasz Szmigiel @VoiGAS
                          last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 12:06

                          @VoiGAS remember to sync the watch after soft reset and then wait 15 minutes in order for the watch to unpack the AGPS data.

                          S9PP 2.40.38

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                            VoiGAS Silver Members
                            last edited by 3 Jul 2024, 12:38

                            Soft Reset & Performance Run done, next Test on friday for FusedTrack. Funfact: Ray tested FusedTrack in a 10 Minute Run. Guess what - it worked great 😉
                            https://analyze.dcrainmaker.com/#/public/1e2d78d0-2e27-4219-7a46-9e64e4526069


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                              isazi Moderator @VoiGAS
                              last edited by 3 Jul 2024, 12:40

                              @VoiGAS honestly not sure if the watch was doing 15 minutes of performance when in endurance mode at that time (2018, the time S9/S9B were introduced). As you can see from the track, the watch was not in performance mode.

                              Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                              Blog: isazi's home

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                                VoiGAS Silver Members @isazi
                                last edited by VoiGAS 7 Mar 2024, 12:52 3 Jul 2024, 12:51

                                @isazi How can you see it was not it performance mode? Is this maybe something I can analyze for my own runs? I just tried it with the GPX (Workout) Export and like expected it is showing 1-3 second intervalls for the first 17 (strange, really 17 and not 15) minutes and afterwards just one position entry per minute

                                Edit I mean the old, faulty one. After the reset I still have to try


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                                  isazi Moderator @VoiGAS
                                  last edited by 3 Jul 2024, 12:52

                                  @VoiGAS because the track would be much better if it was in performance mode.

                                  Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                  Blog: isazi's home

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                                    VoiGAS Silver Members
                                    last edited by 5 Jul 2024, 15:32

                                    Soft Reset did not work, same 1 Minute Jumps like before ☹️. Worst thing is that it completly cuts the last meters that way. If it would just sync GPS at the end.
                                    Next station Hard Reset, I hope it helps


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                                      VoiGAS Silver Members
                                      last edited by 6 Jul 2024, 09:28

                                      Update after Hard Reset: At the end of the Calibration (Performance Mode) Run the watch showed a message “Laufen kalibriert” (running calibrated). This message didn’t show up after the soft reset, so I keep my fingers crossed for tomorrow…


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                                        VoiGAS Silver Members @isazi
                                        last edited by VoiGAS 7 Jul 2024, 11:07 7 Jul 2024, 10:27

                                        @isazi @Łukasz-Szmigiel Unfortunatly it didn’t work. I also noticed that the pace was way off, it showed 7:00 to 11:00min/km during the run. So also FusedSpeed doesn’t work. Thats really a bummer as the Fused Algorithms are Suuntos USP and I really like to use them.
                                        I guess the accelerometer is defective - hopefully Suunto can repair it ☹️


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                                          VoiGAS Silver Members
                                          last edited by 25 Jul 2024, 10:55

                                          Update after I sent the watch to Suunto for repair: No defect, I should try to do a calibration run and the watch is already on the way home 😤
                                          Somehow I expected it to be this way, but still I’m disappointed. I like Suuntos idea with FusedTrack, but I think it should also work…


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