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FusedTrack works great - for 16 Minutes or 2,5km

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    VoiGAS Silver Members @isazi
    last edited by VoiGAS 7 Feb 2024, 08:42 2 Jul 2024, 08:27

    @isazi Yes, and I just counted the “jumps” in the track - it is just one position marker per minute, nothing in between 😞
    I read the watch should request a compass calibration when Endurance mode is chosen. I never had a message like this


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      isazi Moderator @VoiGAS
      last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 08:42

      @VoiGAS did you already try to reboot your watch?

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        VoiGAS Silver Members @isazi
        last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 08:43

        @isazi No, I will try that


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          Łukasz Szmigiel
          last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 09:46

          As far as I’m aware - this should always work for running activities in Endurance and Ultra if the watch has calibrated wrist movement to GPS, which typically takes one 15+ minutes run in Performance mode.

          @isazi, will such data get refreshed with only a soft-reset?

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            isazi Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
            last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 10:01

            @Łukasz-Szmigiel I would say that a reboot is the first step, then maybe a factory reset could be necessary. Hopefully not.

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              VoiGAS Silver Members @isazi
              last edited by VoiGAS 7 Feb 2024, 12:07 2 Jul 2024, 10:40

              @isazi ok, so Soft Reset + AGPS Sync (then wait 15 Minutes) + 15 Minutes Performance Run to calibrate + Compass Calibration + Endurance Run is the way to go . This will be one of my most intense training weeks 😀


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                Łukasz Szmigiel @VoiGAS
                last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 12:06

                @VoiGAS remember to sync the watch after soft reset and then wait 15 minutes in order for the watch to unpack the AGPS data.

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                  VoiGAS Silver Members
                  last edited by 3 Jul 2024, 12:38

                  Soft Reset & Performance Run done, next Test on friday for FusedTrack. Funfact: Ray tested FusedTrack in a 10 Minute Run. Guess what - it worked great 😉
                  https://analyze.dcrainmaker.com/#/public/1e2d78d0-2e27-4219-7a46-9e64e4526069


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                    isazi Moderator @VoiGAS
                    last edited by 3 Jul 2024, 12:40

                    @VoiGAS honestly not sure if the watch was doing 15 minutes of performance when in endurance mode at that time (2018, the time S9/S9B were introduced). As you can see from the track, the watch was not in performance mode.

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                      VoiGAS Silver Members @isazi
                      last edited by VoiGAS 7 Mar 2024, 12:52 3 Jul 2024, 12:51

                      @isazi How can you see it was not it performance mode? Is this maybe something I can analyze for my own runs? I just tried it with the GPX (Workout) Export and like expected it is showing 1-3 second intervalls for the first 17 (strange, really 17 and not 15) minutes and afterwards just one position entry per minute

                      Edit I mean the old, faulty one. After the reset I still have to try


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                        isazi Moderator @VoiGAS
                        last edited by 3 Jul 2024, 12:52

                        @VoiGAS because the track would be much better if it was in performance mode.

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                          VoiGAS Silver Members
                          last edited by 5 Jul 2024, 15:32

                          Soft Reset did not work, same 1 Minute Jumps like before ☹️. Worst thing is that it completly cuts the last meters that way. If it would just sync GPS at the end.
                          Next station Hard Reset, I hope it helps


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                            VoiGAS Silver Members
                            last edited by 6 Jul 2024, 09:28

                            Update after Hard Reset: At the end of the Calibration (Performance Mode) Run the watch showed a message “Laufen kalibriert” (running calibrated). This message didn’t show up after the soft reset, so I keep my fingers crossed for tomorrow…


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                              VoiGAS Silver Members @isazi
                              last edited by VoiGAS 7 Jul 2024, 11:07 7 Jul 2024, 10:27

                              @isazi @Łukasz-Szmigiel Unfortunatly it didn’t work. I also noticed that the pace was way off, it showed 7:00 to 11:00min/km during the run. So also FusedSpeed doesn’t work. Thats really a bummer as the Fused Algorithms are Suuntos USP and I really like to use them.
                              I guess the accelerometer is defective - hopefully Suunto can repair it ☹️


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                                VoiGAS Silver Members
                                last edited by 25 Jul 2024, 10:55

                                Update after I sent the watch to Suunto for repair: No defect, I should try to do a calibration run and the watch is already on the way home 😤
                                Somehow I expected it to be this way, but still I’m disappointed. I like Suuntos idea with FusedTrack, but I think it should also work…


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                                  VoiGAS Silver Members
                                  last edited by VoiGAS 29 Jul 2024, 07:15

                                  Also after the supports actions it doesn’t work. My theory is that FusedTrack doesn’t exist anymore, at least not on S9 Peak https://forum.suunto.com/post/149960
                                  So this thread can be closed


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                                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @VoiGAS
                                    last edited by 30 Jul 2024, 17:13

                                    @VoiGAS said in FusedTrack works great - for 16 Minutes or 2,5km:

                                    Also after the supports actions it doesn’t work. My theory is that FusedTrack doesn’t exist anymore, at least not on S9 Peak https://forum.suunto.com/post/149960
                                    So this thread can be closed

                                    I checked an old manual I have against a new one, you are correct. I will test this by tomorrow. I have my 9Peak and Suunto 9baro charging to see if both behave the same way. I’ll report back here for you.

                                    Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                      VoiGAS Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
                                      last edited by 1 Aug 2024, 15:34

                                      @Brad_Olwin How did it go? Great that you have such an impression Suunto collection for comparsions 😀


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                                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @VoiGAS
                                        last edited by 1 Aug 2024, 20:26

                                        @VoiGAS said in FusedTrack works great - for 16 Minutes or 2,5km:

                                        @Brad_Olwin How did it go? Great that you have such an impression Suunto collection for comparsions 😀

                                        Sorry, will do soon. Fires near required us to prepare for a potential evacuation. Better now so hopefully test this tomorrow or over the weekend.

                                        Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                          VoiGAS Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
                                          last edited by 1 Aug 2024, 20:43

                                          @Brad_Olwin Oh no! All the best for you and sorry to bother you with such a thing


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