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FusedTrack works great - for 16 Minutes or 2,5km

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    VoiGAS Silver Members
    last edited by 1 Jul 2024, 11:42

    Hi,
    I have a Problem with FusedTrack. I am using my Peak 9 since nearly a year and it works great most of the day. Yesterday I tried FusedTrack the first time and it really worked great for the first 16 Minutes of the run. Then it just stopped, easy to see in the recordings because then it jumps from one GPS position to the next directly. Tried another run today on a different route, with the same behaviour
    On both runs I calibrated the compass before and waited for the GPS Signal. My firmware ist the latest

    Any ideas? I really like to use FusedTrack because it works really great


    Race S
    Ambit3 Vertical

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      isazi Moderator @VoiGAS
      last edited by 1 Jul 2024, 12:23

      @VoiGAS in the first 15 minutes the watch uses the performance mode, and moves to endurance/ultra/tour only after 15 minutes.

      Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

      Blog: isazi's home

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        VoiGAS Silver Members @isazi
        last edited by VoiGAS 7 Jan 2024, 13:14 1 Jul 2024, 12:32

        @isazi Thank you, thats why it works that good in the beginning. But this would mean that FusedTrack doesn’t work at all. Just GPS jumps from one point to the next
        I forgot to mention that I used the Custom Battery Mode with GPS Mode good. So maybe this doesn’t trigger FusedTrack? I don’t want to use Endurance or Ultra because it disables Wrist HR

        Edit: I have to correct myself, Wrist HR should work with Endurance. I will try it on the next run


        Race S
        Ambit3 Vertical

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          Mff73 @VoiGAS
          last edited by 1 Jul 2024, 16:13

          @VoiGAS
          Isn’t fused track only available for S9? Not for S9P or S9PP.

          Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
          Suunto Vertical all black
          Wife : S9PP
          SA: Always the latest beta :)
          Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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            VoiGAS Silver Members @Mff73
            last edited by 1 Jul 2024, 16:43

            @Mff73 As far as I know it all the Suuntos since 9 have it - at least I hope so


            Race S
            Ambit3 Vertical

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              Łukasz Szmigiel @Mff73
              last edited by 1 Jul 2024, 17:24

              @Mff73 1s fix for Endurance is available since 9PP. 9P should have FusedTrack as the original S9.

              S9PP 2.40.38

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                Mff73 @VoiGAS
                last edited by 1 Jul 2024, 18:02

                @VoiGAS
                @Łukasz-Szmigiel
                OK, my bad.

                Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                Suunto Vertical all black
                Wife : S9PP
                SA: Always the latest beta :)
                Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                  VoiGAS Silver Members @isazi
                  last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 07:01

                  @isazi Tried again in Endurance Mode, same behaviour: Only straight lines, no FusedTrack effect. I compared it to online reviews, there it is not perfect - but its doing something.
                  Could it be a defect? Compass works, at least in standalone mode


                  Race S
                  Ambit3 Vertical

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                    Łukasz Szmigiel @VoiGAS
                    last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 08:05

                    @VoiGAS did you register a normal run with Performance mode before? So that the watch got calibrated for your moves?

                    S9PP 2.40.38

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                      VoiGAS Silver Members @Łukasz Szmigiel
                      last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 08:19

                      @Łukasz-Szmigiel Yes, a lot. Really strange


                      Race S
                      Ambit3 Vertical

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                        isazi Moderator @VoiGAS
                        last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 08:20

                        @VoiGAS and this is running right, not cycling?

                        Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                        Blog: isazi's home

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                          VoiGAS Silver Members @isazi
                          last edited by VoiGAS 7 Feb 2024, 08:42 2 Jul 2024, 08:27

                          @isazi Yes, and I just counted the “jumps” in the track - it is just one position marker per minute, nothing in between 😞
                          I read the watch should request a compass calibration when Endurance mode is chosen. I never had a message like this


                          Race S
                          Ambit3 Vertical

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                            isazi Moderator @VoiGAS
                            last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 08:42

                            @VoiGAS did you already try to reboot your watch?

                            Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                            Blog: isazi's home

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                              VoiGAS Silver Members @isazi
                              last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 08:43

                              @isazi No, I will try that


                              Race S
                              Ambit3 Vertical

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                                Łukasz Szmigiel
                                last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 09:46

                                As far as I’m aware - this should always work for running activities in Endurance and Ultra if the watch has calibrated wrist movement to GPS, which typically takes one 15+ minutes run in Performance mode.

                                @isazi, will such data get refreshed with only a soft-reset?

                                S9PP 2.40.38

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                                  isazi Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
                                  last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 10:01

                                  @Łukasz-Szmigiel I would say that a reboot is the first step, then maybe a factory reset could be necessary. Hopefully not.

                                  Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                  Blog: isazi's home

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                                    VoiGAS Silver Members @isazi
                                    last edited by VoiGAS 7 Feb 2024, 12:07 2 Jul 2024, 10:40

                                    @isazi ok, so Soft Reset + AGPS Sync (then wait 15 Minutes) + 15 Minutes Performance Run to calibrate + Compass Calibration + Endurance Run is the way to go . This will be one of my most intense training weeks 😀


                                    Race S
                                    Ambit3 Vertical

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                                      Łukasz Szmigiel @VoiGAS
                                      last edited by 2 Jul 2024, 12:06

                                      @VoiGAS remember to sync the watch after soft reset and then wait 15 minutes in order for the watch to unpack the AGPS data.

                                      S9PP 2.40.38

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                                        VoiGAS Silver Members
                                        last edited by 3 Jul 2024, 12:38

                                        Soft Reset & Performance Run done, next Test on friday for FusedTrack. Funfact: Ray tested FusedTrack in a 10 Minute Run. Guess what - it worked great 😉
                                        https://analyze.dcrainmaker.com/#/public/1e2d78d0-2e27-4219-7a46-9e64e4526069


                                        Race S
                                        Ambit3 Vertical

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                                          isazi Moderator @VoiGAS
                                          last edited by 3 Jul 2024, 12:40

                                          @VoiGAS honestly not sure if the watch was doing 15 minutes of performance when in endurance mode at that time (2018, the time S9/S9B were introduced). As you can see from the track, the watch was not in performance mode.

                                          Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                          Blog: isazi's home

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