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    thanasis Bronze Member @JonasLarsson
    last edited by 26 Aug 2024, 05:34

    @JonasLarsson said in HRV (again):

    It was worth a try. Did I expect help? No. Still. No response when you ask something here is like no reponse when you say hi to someone on the trail and they look away. We can do better.

    hello ! i think it was sunday yesterday …:)

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      JonasLarsson
      last edited by 26 Aug 2024, 06:22

      Slept 8.13 but that is not what the app says. Same kind of problem that I posted about yesterday? Beats me.

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        EzioAuditore Gold Members @JonasLarsson
        last edited by 26 Aug 2024, 07:30

        @JonasLarsson Weird. I usually only had one nap reported on the watch not recorded in the app but not such out of sync numbers. Did you try syncing again or the day after what will it tell you? Maybe they do some server side re-analysis of the data?

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          JonasLarsson @EzioAuditore
          last edited by 26 Aug 2024, 07:33

          @EzioAuditore I had this problem only once before. Multiple syncs doesn’t change diff. Server? Not sure what you mean.

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            EzioAuditore Gold Members @JonasLarsson
            last edited by 26 Aug 2024, 07:42

            @JonasLarsson Well what Garmin does for example is they send the watch data to Backend services they re-analyse it and re-send it back to the watch, so in some cases the sleep data may change of what initially was said. Since Suunto is still not sending fitness data to the watch maybe it only reaches the application, hence the difference in values?

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              maszop Bronze Member @JonasLarsson
              last edited by 26 Aug 2024, 07:46

              @JonasLarsson It looks like you woke up earlier and the watch synced with the app. Then you went back to sleep and the watch recorded the rest of your sleep, but the app didn’t update them anymore, hence the differences.

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                EzioAuditore Gold Members @maszop
                last edited by 26 Aug 2024, 07:51

                @maszop or this 🙂

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                  JonasLarsson @maszop
                  last edited by 26 Aug 2024, 07:56

                  @maszop said in HRV (again):

                  @JonasLarsson It looks like you woke up earlier and the watch synced with the app. Then you went back to sleep and the watch recorded the rest of your sleep, but the app didn’t update them anymore, hence the differences.

                  I was up drinking water and went back to sleep. This could explain it, but shouldn’t app reg again when I sync?

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                    JonasLarsson @JonasLarsson
                    last edited by 26 Aug 2024, 09:04

                    @JonasLarsson said in HRV (again):

                    @maszop said in HRV (again):

                    @JonasLarsson It looks like you woke up earlier and the watch synced with the app. Then you went back to sleep and the watch recorded the rest of your sleep, but the app didn’t update them anymore, hence the differences.

                    I was up drinking water and went back to sleep. This could explain it, but shouldn’t app reg again when I sync?

                    I was to fast to answer you. What you wrote doesn’t make sense. I did fall a sleep (which the watch registered) and drank water and went back to bed. If syncing is the problem the first face of sleep would be registered, right? App only registered my sleep after I went to bed again. The watch did register everything.

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                      far-blue Bronze Member
                      last edited by 26 Aug 2024, 22:16

                      possibly if the app sync’d when you first woke up (before midnight the previous say) then it considered the first sleep as a ‘nap’ on the previous day and decided the sleep was from when you went back to sleep just before midnight through to when you woke up.

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                        JonasLarsson @far-blue
                        last edited by 27 Aug 2024, 05:51

                        @far-blue But the Vertical doesn’t do naps?

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                          JonasLarsson @far-blue
                          last edited by 27 Aug 2024, 05:53

                          @far-blue Also: The watch registered everything as sleep the morning after. How can the app loose hours of sleep when it gets the data from the watch? 🤔

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                            EzioAuditore Gold Members @JonasLarsson
                            last edited by 27 Aug 2024, 09:56

                            @JonasLarsson The Vertical still uses FirstBeat algos for the sleep/step etc. (at least this is what I know) and will need time to move to full suunto native (like Race and Ocean).

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                              JonasLarsson
                              last edited by 30 Aug 2024, 06:27

                              Hi, it’ me again.

                              Hands up if you got this problem too. it is much easier when we stand together in this kind of really-important-for-me-as-a-human-being questions.

                              With that said, here a some beautiful pictures that will certainly make you wonder when will he stop. I get that.

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                                seanvk @EzioAuditore
                                last edited by 2 Sept 2024, 16:37

                                @EzioAuditore actually I believe that Vertical is Suunto native but Race is licensed from a third party.

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                                  Mff73 @seanvk
                                  last edited by 2 Sept 2024, 16:54

                                  @seanvk
                                  Or the opposite?
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                                    JonasLarsson @EzioAuditore
                                    last edited by 19 Sept 2024, 11:26

                                    @EzioAuditore Did I answer you? Sorry if a didn’t. So what you are saying is that it will work better in the future? Sleep and HRV is obviously not correct today. Like last night the watch said that the sleep quality was good and that I was awake more than one hour. I was not.

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                                      JonasLarsson @EzioAuditore
                                      last edited by 19 Sept 2024, 11:29

                                      @EzioAuditore said in HRV (again):

                                      @JonasLarsson The Vertical still uses FirstBeat algos for the sleep/step etc. (at least this is what I know) and will need time to move to full suunto native (like Race and Ocean).

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