Suunto ZoneSense
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@6iovanni said in Suunto ZoneSense:
also depends on how your current and past baseline is
if SZ gives you a live information about your (actual) body status, as Egika said, and believe that is like that, then it shouldn’t depend upon past data.
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@Stefano-M64 imho the baseline starting point for each new session depends on the previous ones, and its value changes according to the efforts of the latter. So, again in my opinion, a mix of easy and difficult sessions is the best way to make DDFA work effectively.
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@thanasis said in Suunto ZoneSense:
i also want to rely on zonesense but i really struggle to understand how is it possible when going uphill , with over 170Bpm for some minutes the app to be showing i am in the green zone… In principle i am excited about relying on hr variability but am i harming myself by relying on it? that’s the big question for me
This is normal, because metabolically you are still in green. You do not enter/exit one zone only for changing a few HR beats. As you observe that at 170 bpm you do not go red immediately you will also observe that if you are red at the top of the hill, when you start to go down and your bpm are going down you are still in red for some time, because you are still not recovered metabolically. When you are going uphill, instead of reducing your pace try to keep the pace and continue pushing you will see that you will enter in red rapidly, or start the uphill at higher pace.
In my opinion, since the release of ZS, amateur runners we should do a lab test/medical check to see if your heart is healthy and there are no issues with it and then you can trust ZS for you training. Of course you have to use it correctly, do the warm up, do the first sessions slowly and use a good chest strap.
In order to use it properly, we should unlearn some things.
@thanasis said in Suunto ZoneSense:
If this hypothesis stands true, I (as an amateur, non scientifically trained user) cannot really make use of it.
On the contrary, you can use it more. The zones that it indicates are the real ones for that exercise/day and you do not need any expensive lab test.
In my opinion, as ZS is now, ZS is pretty good and solid but Suunto should do a next step integrating ZS in the watch firmware and let you decide to work with the 5 zones or the 3 ZS zones.
In my case, I use ZS from time to time because chest straps wound my chest if I use them continuously. So when I have a session that I want to be strict with the zones I use ZS and the days that I do not care I use an OHR armband.
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@cosme.costa yep, also the audio queues.
Doing a long run and trying to stay in green zone is a pain when you have to keep lifting your wrist.
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@cosme.costa Well said! And, I have been asking since before ZS release to bake into the outer ring. So have other testers……we will see.
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@timecode Same problems here. Another prob is that I never reach vo2max zone. Tried all case while running.
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@Sportsfreund ZoneSense is still in the development phase. So far, it’s unusable, at least for me. Furthermore, the incomprehensible values in the watch never match those in the app.
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@6iovanni said in Suunto ZoneSense:
ZS is not only based on HR and also depends on how your current and past baseline is. Have you trained enough in the past in the aerobic zone? Did you give ZS time to stabilize at the beginning of the session?
Is this true? Does ZoneSense keep a running baseline from previous days? if so, is that baseline averaged or weighted in some way, or is it just point-to-point? I couldn’t find an answer to this in the documentation. If my ZoneSense baseline is persistent from day-to-day, does this get transferred to other watches that are paired with the app?
Suunto Race S / 9 Baro / Ambit 3 Peak / Observer
Polar H10 / Verity Sense / OH1
Stryd Duo / Stryd wind / Zwift RunPod -
@atoponce yes it builds a baseline from regular easy efforts, it’s covered in the FAQs. I don’t know about the multiple watches question.
For me ZoneSense is really promising, but it feels like an alpha product.
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