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      2b2bff @Brad_Olwin
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      @Brad_Olwin said in ZoneSense:

      By this logic, all LT1 measurements are wrong, whether done in a lab or by ZS. The estimate of LT1 by ZS is not “wrong” it is simply an estimate that you can use should you choose to do so. Same for a lab test LT1 “estimate”! What conclusions are you making that are wrong?

      I wonder if I don’t get your point or you don’t get mine.

      I’m talking about exactly one specific run where ZoneSense estimated a LT1 below the LT1 I set for my HR zones. You say that this estimation is specific for that run, aren’t you? And this estimated LT1 is the divider between green and yellow isn’t it?
      If all that is true, so why can it be that I have more green and less yellow than by looking at the same data using my set HR zones? That is the simple question I’m trying to figure out.

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        Brad_Olwin Moderator @2b2bff
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        @2b2bff said in ZoneSense:

        @Brad_Olwin said in ZoneSense:

        By this logic, all LT1 measurements are wrong, whether done in a lab or by ZS. The estimate of LT1 by ZS is not “wrong” it is simply an estimate that you can use should you choose to do so. Same for a lab test LT1 “estimate”! What conclusions are you making that are wrong?

        I wonder if I don’t get your point or you don’t get mine.

        I’m talking about exactly one specific run where ZoneSense estimated a LT1 below the LT1 I set for my HR zones. You say that this estimation is specific for that run, aren’t you? And this estimated LT1 is the divider between green and yellow isn’t it?
        If all that is true, so why can it be that I have more green and less yellow than by looking at the same data using my set HR zones? That is the simple question I’m trying to figure out.

        OK the number is calculated in the app and I am unsure of how reliable that number is. I have been testing two different watches receiving from the same belt and the numbers for LTI are different or one watch provides an LTI and the other does not. So, I would trust the number less than the percentages you get from ZS. Sorry for the confusion.

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          Alonzo @Brad_Olwin
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          Hi @Brad_Olwin, thanks for sharing your knowledge! Since few months I am monitoring ZoneSense results and comparing it to my feelings and to HR values. So far, everything matches, if I run slow and easy. Once I start to speed up, ZoneSense doesn’t catch up. At least it looks like, but maybe you can help me to make sense Out of the data in the snapshot. It shows results of Cooper test: estimated Anaerobic threshold is at 171. After first 10th minutes I ran with 90-95% of effort, but ZS went into red zone just once and very briefly. From feelings perspective, I could have ran a bit faster (but not much), but a bottleneck were my muscles…
          Could it be, that for a proper/better ZS “calibration” during first 10minutes of run, one has to speed up to through all HR zones? 931dc19d-0cf6-4002-b0d0-afe385638da9-image.png

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            Audaxjoe
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            Strange readings on last bike ride! Zonesense baseline. It is this something new? I certainly can’t remember seeing it before.

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              Jan Suchánek @Audaxjoe
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              @Audaxjoe also got that yesterday on bike:

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                Squirrel Bronze Member @Audaxjoe
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                @Audaxjoe said in ZoneSense:

                Strange readings on last bike ride! Zonesense baseline. It is this something new? I certainly can’t remember seeing it before.

                Already mentioned in https://forum.suunto.com/post/169982
                It’s unintended and will be fixed in next app release.

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                  thanasis Bronze Member
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                  how is the battery consumption of the zonesense to you? i have seen some significant increase when using it compared to not using it (some 3% per hour) which is quite high in my view given that the HR is being measured by the belt and not the oHR

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                  • Milan ŠádekM Offline
                    Milan Šádek Bronze Member
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                    I have my SV at a service center. I have recorder some running workouts with Suunto app + H10 belt as a backup solution. I thought that this should be enough to have ZoneSense processed afterwards by the App. This is however not the case - there is no ZoneSense data. Am I doing anything wrong?

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                      thanasis Bronze Member @Milan Šádek
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                      @Milan-Šádek it is there . there seems to be an issue (glitch??) where you need to exit the activity, access another activity and then revert to the activity and it shall be there

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                        Mff73 @Milan Šádek
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                        @Milan-Šádek
                        Recording in Suunto App is not recording R-R data, as far as I remember. (not tested recently though).

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                          Milan Šádek Bronze Member @Mff73
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                          @Mff73 correct, there is no R-R data when I check these workouts which were recorded via app + HR belt. Thank you - it is however a pitty that this does not work 😞

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                            sky-runner Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
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                            @Brad_Olwin said in ZoneSense:

                            Use ZS for 10 runs where you get an LT1 estimate, average them and you will likely have a reasonable LT1 estimate

                            Where in the app can I see LT1 and LT2 estimates over time?

                            From my experience, both LT1 and LT2 estimates are way too low compared to all the estimates I had before with Garmin and with other methods, and with observing my HR during races and hard efforts.

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