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    [DONE] Selling S9 bought Garmin Fenix 5x

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      surfexit109
      last edited by

      With all the issues with the S9 and Suunto App I have bought a Garmin device. I had enough issues with Suunto that have not been resolved and not taken seriously. The S9 is crud and the Suunto app is not working. $600+ dollars wasted

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        A Former User
        last edited by

        Well, I have the 5x too and you will run into other issues. Same same but different. Enjoy your new watch šŸ˜ŠšŸ‘‹šŸ»

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          mbergi Bronze Member
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          For example poor GPS accuracy. Pace calculation was really bad (even average pace) under tough conditions (areas with trees, etc.)

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            SlaSh Platinum Member @mbergi
            last edited by

            @Martin-Bergmayr and how Fenix is doing? For example Garmin F5 was worse in gps terms than spartan baro…

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              Oli_Ver
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              These days it is normally that you can buy only unfinished products, you can buy what you want, everything the same…
              We German call it ā€œBanana Productsā€, matures at the customer.

              The manufacturer are more busy with creating new products instead of improving the products they have.
              Therefore you can buy what you want, you ever will have trouble, sometime more, sometime less…

              Watch: Spartan Sport WHR Baro
              Watch fw: 2.6.54
              SuuntoApp Version: everytime the latest beta available in Play Store
              Smartphone: Google Pixel 2 XL

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                mbergi Bronze Member @SlaSh
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                @SlaSh sorry, my posting referred to the Fenix. I found it inaccurate very often so I switched back to Suunto. I use a Spartan Ultra now and love the look and feel. If there wouldn’t be that mess with the Suunto ecosystem… šŸ˜ž

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                  SlaSh Platinum Member @Oli_Ver
                  last edited by

                  @Oli_Ver I have just donwloaded garmin connect app, not used it over the year, progressed a lot…

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                    Armin S. @SlaSh
                    last edited by Armin S.

                    @SlaSh … Garmin APP - I think it’s creepy😱

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                    • sartoricS Offline
                      sartoric Moderator
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                      @surfexit109
                      Farewell, have fun.

                      SVTS - 2.40.38
                      SSSWHR BARO Amber - 2.8.32
                      Samsung A5 2016 - Android 7.0
                      Samsung A33 2022 - Android 14 - One UI 6.1
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                        peringmar Silver Members @Guest
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                        @moe67er What made you switch to suunto? What are the flaws on the fenix?

                        Suunto Spartan Sport WHR power user

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                        • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                          Brad_Olwin Moderator
                          last edited by

                          I understand your frustration. I think in another six months the Suunto app will be where you might be happier. It did take time for Garmin to develop connect. For me, the hardware is the most important. These are complicated devices and I think you will find pluses and minuses for both.

                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                            sartoric Moderator
                            last edited by sartoric

                            Unfortunately this is the trend of the last years.
                            As Freddie said … I want it all, and I want it now 😁 😁

                            I understand the frustration but

                            • I don’t see TODAY so many issues as (maybe) in the past years
                            • You shouldn’t buy a watch for its app
                            • You should know what you’re buying, considering the cost, but if you have no money issues please, don’t complaint just buy a new one
                            • You should rtfm

                            šŸ˜„

                            I’m happy with my S Baro, the app it’s not yet the best so I’m still using MC web and that’s perfectly fine to me

                            SVTS - 2.40.38
                            SSSWHR BARO Amber - 2.8.32
                            Samsung A5 2016 - Android 7.0
                            Samsung A33 2022 - Android 14 - One UI 6.1
                            Suunto App Android 5.2.5 beta
                            Suunto App IOs 2.45.0 (19123) beta on MBP M1

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                              SlaSh Platinum Member @sartoric
                              last edited by

                              @sartoric I disagree on app part, it is very important how hardware is connected with software now. As I said I have checked Garmin connect app after more than one year of not using it and it evolved significantly and I like it how it looks and works, which the same for suunto app.

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                                sartoric Moderator
                                last edited by

                                @SlaSh
                                Sure.
                                In fact I’m not saying that the app is not important at all, what I mean is that you shouldn’t buy the watch for the app itself.
                                Maybe choose the watch that fits your needs and consider the App as an important part but not as the main feature.

                                Regarding watch issue, if we are talking about software bug … honestly, do you (you people, not you Slash šŸ™‚ ) know any recent device 100% bug proof ?

                                SVTS - 2.40.38
                                SSSWHR BARO Amber - 2.8.32
                                Samsung A5 2016 - Android 7.0
                                Samsung A33 2022 - Android 14 - One UI 6.1
                                Suunto App Android 5.2.5 beta
                                Suunto App IOs 2.45.0 (19123) beta on MBP M1

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                                  SlaSh Platinum Member @sartoric
                                  last edited by SlaSh

                                  @sartoric well Apple Watch 4 is very reliable in terms of data collecting after using it over 3 weeks.

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                                    A Former User
                                    last edited by

                                    I used a FR235 (ConnectIQ), FitBit Blaze (Fitbit), Frontier S3 (SHealth), Stratos (MiFit/Amaze) and now S9 (SApp/MC).

                                    The best app was CIQ, seconded by Fitbit, also with the access to the Web anywhere (you can’t do that with other smartwatch platforms).

                                    The best hardware is the S9, the features offered can be easily improved with FW and programming.
                                    There are plenty of flaws in SApp that will be fixed in the near future and I hope that Suunto listen the comments/pledges of the users.

                                    Suunto is an amazing watch but the user interface, customization, apps and FW must improve drastically if they want to be #1, which I believe they will become IF and ONLY IF they listen to the market …

                                    Thanks

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                                      A Former User @peringmar
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                                      @peringmar the cracking oHR sensor is very bad for that price. And the display presentation of Suunto is much smoother beside native support for running power.

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                                        SlaSh Platinum Member @Guest
                                        last edited by SlaSh

                                        @moe67er hell yes, my F3hr got replaced cause of composite used for ohr sensor crack, but replacement part had as well minor crack after 3 months of usage and I sold it, cannot comment on as owned it less than a month cause of sensors connectivity issues.

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                                          suzzlo Moderator
                                          last edited by suzzlo

                                          Hi,

                                          I’m not buying a watch, I’m buying training tools: Watch + App + Web

                                          I need something that help me training harder, smarter and healthier, and actually, none of them (Suunto, Polar, Garmin) are good enough:

                                          • Suunto: best accuracy but lack of basic features
                                          • Polar: in the middle of those 2. Not the most big list of features and not the most accurate watch
                                          • Garmin: good platform with too much features but poor accuracy

                                          you always have to give up something… and that’s why it’s always something relative to personal preferences

                                          I’m also thinking of buying a new watch for triathlon, but… which would I buy? FR935? never tested a Garmin but you all guys says that has bad accuracy. Vantage V? very immature (like Suunto platform now)

                                          BR

                                          Suunto: Race, S9Peak, Spartan Sport Wrist
                                          Garmin: FR745, Edge 530
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                                            ColdBeer @suzzlo
                                            last edited by

                                            @suzzlo said in [DONE] Selling S9 bought Garmin Fenix 5x:

                                            Hi,

                                            I’m not buying a watch, I’m buying training tools: Watch + App + Web
                                            Totally agree, this is the point of every conversation talking about sportwatches. And, definitely, if you are a manufacturer/producer, you don’t need to hear every user (buyers/athletes with few weeks of experience, for example), and if you are interested on extending your market, you must hear a little further than your traditional expertise users.
                                            So finally, you must develop an stable, trustworthy, expandable and non device dependant platform for athletes, where an expertise could be comfortable, and where a nerd could say WOW!

                                            I need something that help me training harder, smarter and healthier, and actually, none of them (Suunto, Polar, Garmin) are good enough:

                                            • Suunto: best accuracy but lack of basic features

                                            And immersed in a non sense (for overall users) road developing a platform based on mobile apps (against a web based platform which is their best expertise point and the easier -because it’s not device dependant- one)…

                                            • Polar: in the middle of those 2. Not the most big list of features and not the most accurate watch
                                            • Garmin: good platform with too much features but poor accuracy

                                            But, at least into my neighborhood (friends, familiars…), it’s something just like a standard. But for sure, with a confiable and non device dependant web platform with a punch of capabilities to deeply analysis of workouts and programming them.

                                            I’m also thinking of buying a new watch for triathlon, but… which would I buy? FR935? never tested a Garmin but you all guys says that has bad accuracy. Vantage V? very immature (like Suunto platform now)

                                            My wife has got a FR735XT and have not so bad accuracy (at least compared with my SST). Like EVERY other one, it could have a bad day, but mine, for example, has always a bad day on open water. On bike and running, normally mine has got more accuracy, but I must say it has more bad days than 735.
                                            In the other side, as far as triathlon athletes doesn’t do just triathlon competition, but they do duathlon and swim&run too (and other kind of sport cocktails)… IMHO saying that Spartans watches are triathlon watches is a limited assertion and while they have not customized multi-sport modes, the correct assertion would be something like ā€œlimited triathlon watchesā€.
                                            I took a short view of a Xiaomi Amazfit Pace 2/Stratos, and it just really have a customizable multisport mode with transitions (or not, whatever you want). In the other hand, it has just a mobile app, which is far enough from an optimal sport solution.

                                            var Watch="Garmin Forerunner 735XT", WatchFw="9.40";
                                            var Phone="Samsung Galaxy S8", PhoneOS="Android 9.0.0";

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