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Well, when I switched to “Endurance” battery mode around 22-25 hours in (I thought I’d done so at 22 hours in when I got the 20% battery left warning, but then I had another warning later and selected - had to select? - that again, which made me unsure of what was happening… and I myself was at a point of sleep deprivation that made me unsure of anything), I think it deactivated AOD, and it continued recording to 31 hours 36 minutes. Around 10 hours more on 20% battery. Which sounds rather good.

Thanks both. I’ve tried contacting him on Instagram and Reddit. Hopefully I hear back. I’ll update this thread if I’m successful, as there seem to be quite a few X9 owners looking for the same solution.

@Steven-Hambleton TP metrics are well understood and the formulas are public and actually very simple. While names and acronyms are likely protected trademarks and must be licensed, nothing should block Suunto from using the same formulas, just calling them differently. I know that Strava uses similar formulas.

@elbee Your are right, I could use my Suunto almost with closed eyes (if I remeber the order of last choosen sportmodes) I am currently testing an older forerunner on my right arm too and I still wonder how to get there where I want to in the menu. There are so many things Suunto does right but Garmin has the better marketing gurus

@JebClydeNC got it now. Thank you! And very nice work!

@aiv4r I don’t insist. Faith is faith.

@VoiGAS said in Are now all Suunto Watches made in China?: @zhangschmidt Dive computers I was wondering if it could be those. Defects/bugs there are an immediate red alert (or were, the last time I made it to Vantaa).

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@tuxbuster yeah, but trainings work different with Garmin and Suunto. In Suunto the one who delivers the Guide is responsible for the metrics displayed and their labels. Suunto could make it easier, possibly. Here you find a definition of the API uses by Suunto… WIthin Garmin the training objections are defined, not what is displayed on the watch…

Primarily useful for marketing departments.

@maszop the compass itself is quick on an Epix Pro - seen in the ABC widget. But painting the rotating map is choppy… I add one to the list: Giving me the last notification from the phone as soon as I’m in reach of Bluetooth again after a run without my phone.

@Tomas5 well, they better get going with some serious software updates then.

@safari I still use mine. It’s the oldest, has seen the most wear and tear, and is irreplaceable. It’s never been serviced, the battery is great, and it performs wonderfully in the pool. Next Monday, I’m sending my current Suunto Vertical for service for the second time (…) so Ambit is back in the game!

@raven I do. Finnish people getting paid to implement Finnish design meant something at least.

@Egika I thought the same, but I seen some year old activities in Italia. Also I didn’t manage to find the filter

All the Vertical, Race(s) and Ocean are great upgrades. Best in class GPS. But if you don’t mind the OLED and want the greatest, the most beautiful and ‘Made in Finland’ get the Ocean. I have the 3 in case you wonder why I suggest the Ocean (oh and if money is no prob since it’s more expensive)

Having tried the Ai running program from Garmin, I’m not a big fan. Changing runs overnight (from a tempo run to a rest day on one occasion and from an easy run to intervals on another - even though the same run had already been carried out that week) and during the course of a day was a little to much for me.

Design / looks Overall accuracy in things that matter for me (gps/ altitude / pace ) Ease of use Robustness of the watch What it stands for (the image of the brand , it brings up emotions with positive connotations) The app It has its flaws but I keep promoting it as a brand that I trust and value