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    Suunto 2.50.26 – Q4 2025 Release Notes

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    • hooramH Offline
      hooram
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      This Q4 2025 Suunto update looks huge! The multisport focus is impressive—automatic transitions for Triathlon and SwimRun, circular multisport, and the new ZoneSense features will make training so much smoother. I also love the per-sport persistent settings and the improved optical HR algorithms—it should finally feel closer to chest strap accuracy. The navigation and sensor improvements are a nice touch too, and the demo mode is perfect for in-store use. Overall, seems like a solid upgrade for both casual and serious athletes.

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        Brad_Olwin Moderator @DrSilverthorn
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        @DrSilverthorn I completely disagree! Zones will change for sports but HR Max is a single value, period! This is physiology.

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          maszop Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
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          I managed to initially test the new software in relatively poor weather. Calculating elevation gain in moderate winds finally worked very well. At least, during moderate winds.

          And as I mentioned earlier, none of the bugs I’ve been reporting on for many updates have been fixed. Specifically, the inability to change routes during ascent/descent, the crazy breadcrumb, and the occasional lack of updating of the current position on the map.

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            Hi everyone, thanks for your input. I’ll enter my maximum heart rate achieved in both sports, but I’ll configure different ranges for each discipline since certain muscles or physical qualities are more involved. Thanks for your contributions.

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              DrSilverthorn @Brad_Olwin
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              @Brad_Olwin go back and read my original post. We are in violent agreement. That being said, using a single HRmax value for purposes of training load computation, when using multiple sports is suboptimal, and IMO ‘wrong’.

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                VoiGAS Gold Members @DrSilverthorn
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                @DrSilverthorn Its not the HRmax that is used for Training Load in my experience, its the zones - especially the thresholds. And those you can set per sport


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                  BastMaSVSRS9PP Bronze Member @DrSilverthorn
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                  @DrSilverthorn agreed.

                  Heart-rate–based training load metrics rely on normalizing effort relative to a reference such as maximum heart rate, implicitly assuming that a given percentage of HRmax represents a comparable level of physiological stress. In reality, HRmax is sport-dependent, varying with muscle mass involved, body position, contraction type, and neuromuscular recruitment; most athletes reach higher maxima in running than in cycling or other seated sports. Applying a single HRmax across multiple sports therefore misaligns intensity zones, systematically under- or over-estimating load for at least one activity and biasing cumulative metrics like weekly or chronic training load. This error is not random but structural, making cross-sport load comparisons unreliable and increasing the risk of hidden fatigue. For multi-sport training, sport-specific HRmax values or preferably sport-specific thresholds are required for physiologically defensible load estimation.

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                    jjpaz Bronze Member @BastMaSVSRS9PP
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                    @BastMaSVSRS9PP said in Suunto 2.50.26 – Q4 2025 Release Notes:

                    @DrSilverthorn agreed.

                    Heart-rate–based training load metrics rely on normalizing effort relative to a reference such as maximum heart rate, implicitly assuming that a given percentage of HRmax represents a comparable level of physiological stress. In reality, HRmax is sport-dependent, varying with muscle mass involved, body position, contraction type, and neuromuscular recruitment; most athletes reach higher maxima in running than in cycling or other seated sports. Applying a single HRmax across multiple sports therefore misaligns intensity zones, systematically under- or over-estimating load for at least one activity and biasing cumulative metrics like weekly or chronic training load. This error is not random but structural, making cross-sport load comparisons unreliable and increasing the risk of hidden fatigue. For multi-sport training, sport-specific HRmax values or preferably sport-specific thresholds are required for physiologically defensible load estimation.

                    Tell that to Coros and his “One HR zones for all”…

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                      2b2bff Silver Members @BastMaSVSRS9PP
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                      @BastMaSVSRS9PP said in Suunto 2.50.26 – Q4 2025 Release Notes:

                      Heart-rate–based training load metrics rely on normalizing effort relative to a reference such as maximum heart rate, implicitly assuming that a given percentage of HRmax represents a comparable level of physiological stress.

                      Possibly this assumption of percentage of HR max is used as the reference isn’t correct after all? If Suunto uses HR zones for training stress calculation, then those are the reference…

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                        Raphes67 Bronze Member @jjpaz
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                        @jjpaz Or see Polar’s implementation where you can set maxHR and zones for each sport profile.
                        This is the way to go.
                        I did a stress test in a laboratory on a bike and my maxHR was 10 beats lower than during a running session. My cardiologist assured me that this was normal because cycling is a low-impact sport that does not engage as many muscles as running.

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                          2b2bff Silver Members @Raphes67
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                          @Raphes67 yeah, but it is the maximum HR that you reached by doing that sport not the maximum HR your heart can actually do. The latter one keeps the same.

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                            Raphes67 Bronze Member @2b2bff
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                            @2b2bff yes you’re right, I have a physiological max heart rate that is reached during running (in my case 184). But when I cycle, I know that I can never reach this max heart rate and 174 would be my max for this sport. That’s why for any cycling profile I have to set a different max heart and different zones according to this knowledge to reflect the real effort and recovery metrics that are dependent.

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                              aiv4r @Raphes67
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                              @Raphes67 so what is the problem? MaxHR is maxHR that is the limiti, also Suunto allows to change cycling zones to reflect your ability to only reach lower HR for cycling. 🙂

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                                Elmiuel @aiv4r
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                                @aiv4r
                                Hi, in this latest update (in my particular case), when you change or modify the Maximum Heart Rate for cycling, it also modifies the heart rate for other sports (running, default, etc.). This could be a bug to consider. I think I’ve modified it in previous updates, and each sport had its own custom heart rate zones…
                                Hence all these tips, contributions of maximum heart rate in different disciplines…

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                                  aiv4r @Elmiuel
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                                  @Elmiuel yea I do not think it is a bug, maxHR is maxHR and I think suunto focus on one physiological maxHR (it is only one). So when changing zones in cycling just change zone limits themselves not the mac HR. I think it is supposed to work like that.

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                                    I use customized sport modes and in two of them I want to be able to see “Lap Duration” while exercising:

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                                    Up until this latest update it has worked fine, but now I get no real-time lap data on the watch (9PP) when in spinning class (Indoor cycling). It does, however, work correctly in the Walking sport mode. When spinning, I start new laps when transitioning from warm-up to exercise, and then again when transitioning from exercise to cool-down. Yet no matter how many new laps I start Lap duration continues to be equal to Duration. Curiously, when I synch with SA I can see the duration of each of the three laps in the app, so the data is being recorded correctly in the watch, just not displayed real-time on the watch.

                                    Is this a bug? Is anybody else having this problem?

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