Suunto Software update Q1 (2.53.42)

safari

@Egika
Rest assured, there is a significant angle difference between 6.0 and 6.5.

Elipsus

@safari There is not a “significant difference” in a 0.5° error for a sport watch, at all.

Lets say you are in a desert, and are planing a 50km walk in a single direction to reach the next oasis, and exclusively use the compass to orient yourself, you would have just, at most, 400m of error at the end.
Even for this highly un-realistic scenario (who tries to do that ? ever ? ) the error is way small enough to be like “oh, the Oasis is just right over here !”

Lets kick things up a notch ! You are in Nianey, at the bottom edge of the Sahara desert, and want to go to Alger, at the Mediterranean sea border up south…with your slightly incorrect compass mounted on your GPS capable watch.
After 2500km of walking in the desert, you will arrive at Tessela El Merdja, just 22km in the suburbs of Alger, where anyone will be able to guide you to it.

And, if you ever have this scenario, don’t forget that you can enter actual GPS coordinates in watch and be done with it.

EDIT: I took a 0.5° error, and should have been using 0.2°, so the error values are 160m and 8.8km

safari

@Elipsus :)) That’s also true.

Gunnar

@Elipsus so you only check the direction at the start of the 50km hike?

Elipsus

@Gunnar I don’t check anything, I enter a GPS coordinate, and I’m following that !
But in the hypothetical scenario, I would be following a path along a 0.5° orientation error, so that’s how I got my rough calculation error (and I now realize I should have been using 0.2, which would be the highest rounding error between 6 and 6.5)

tomtom73

@tuxbuster thanks. Even with soft reboots the battery consumption is high, I’ve lost 8% during the night while not wearing the watch

marcus fox

@isazi hiwheres the best place to report bugs?

would it be to just raise a support ticket.

Ive seen issues with my race where the heart rate starts at 177 bpm before ive even started running

isazi

@marcus-fox it depends. If you need an answer from Suunto, contact support. Sometimes Suunto employees or external field testers that frequent this forum share your issues with Suunto (some instructions here), but you will not get an official reply on those.

safari

@Elipsus
bu neden olabilir?
bu sabah test ettim.
telefon gerçek kuzeyi gösterecek şekilde ayarlı ve kalibre edildi.
saatte de magnetik sapma açısı girildi ( bölgem 6.4" dü 6.5" girdim sadece) ve kalibrasyon yapıldı. ama bir çok alanda denedim manteyik alandan etkilenmesin diye.
sonuçta ikisi de kuzeyi farklı gösteriyor.
ayrıca bulunduğum rakım da 100 m
( bu arada doğru olan İphone un kuzeyi)

marcus fox

@isazi thank you

Elipsus

@safari said in Suunto Software update Q1 (2.53.42):

bu neden olabilir?
bu sabah test ettim.
telefon gerçek kuzeyi gösterecek şekilde ayarlı ve kalibre edildi.
saatte de magnetik sapma açısı girildi ( bölgem 6.4" dü 6.5" girdim sadece) ve kalibrasyon yapıldı. ama bir çok alanda denedim manteyik alandan etkilenmesin diye.
sonuçta ikisi de kuzeyi farklı gösteriyor.
ayrıca bulunduğum rakım da 100 m
( bu arada doğru olan İphone un kuzeyi)

我不明白 (it means, “I don’t understand in Chinese”)

I ran i thru a translator, but please refrain from using any other language than english on the forum.

About your issue, the vaslty different north is probably a calibration issue on the watch), the declination adjustment is just an offset, so this error (of 45°) is definitely not because of the 0.1° declination error
Maybe the magnets in the iphone are causing troubles to the watch ? Are you sure the iphone is showing the true north instead of the magnetic north too ?

inkognito

@Elipsus Not to mention, his phone and watch are both sitting on a laptop in the photo, which is guaranteed to throw off the magnetometers. Should I lodge a complaint too?

Egika

@inkognito
it helps if you were present in the physics class at school…

safari

@Elipsus
I’m using Google Translate.
From Turkish to English. Not Chinese.
I just pasted the wrong part and didn’t realize it afterwards.
I apologize for that.
Yes, it was tested with a real compass.
Calibration was done.
Please remember that I’ve been using Suunto for 15 years when making suggestions and recommendations. I wouldn’t write here without doing simple checks and tests.

safari

@inkognito These tests were conducted in an open area. I only put the camera on the computer screen when I took the photo. I’ll send videos of the tests done in the steep forest.:)

inkognito

@safari Sorry for the silly jokes, mate, I was in a bit of a cheeky mood during my coffee break. Anyway, both my Vertical and my girlfriend’s Race S show the true value within 1-2° precision when compared to a real compass. There might actually be something wrong with your watch if it shows different values…

safari

@inkognito
No problem, these things happen in life.
I mainly do comparisons with an analog compass (Suunto MCA).
It might give different values too.
My mistake was sharing a different image than the one from my test.

Elipsus

@safari I added the chinese part because that how it felt to me when I read your post lol.
No worries, you can edit your post to put the english version instead, so future reader won’t have troubles.
Think of the declination as a simple offset between the “true north” and “magnetic north”, so a 1° error in decliation will result in a 1° difference between the true north and magnetic north, so, what you are showing is not an issue with the declination.
Analog compass will only show you the Magnetic north, if you set the Declination offset to 0 on your watch, you should have the same value.
As other mentioned, the compass integrated in watches is pretty sensitive to even simple metal stuff (the spoon in the example is "redirecting " the magnetic field along the spoon axis, thus changing the direction of the field near the watch), so its only really usable in the “wild” and far from other metallic stuff

safari

@Elipsus said in Suunto Software update Q1 (2.53.42):

Analog compass will only show you the Magnetic north,