Suunto Vertical 1 – A Few Questions About the Future + Questions About the Vertical 2 and a Comparison with the Coros Nomad / the New Vertix 2026

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@elbee said in Suunto Vertical 1 – A Few Questions About the Future + Questions About the Vertical 2 and a Comparison with the Coros Nomad / the New Vertix 2026:

And yes, mips will be faced out. Shiny gadgets sell better than old fashioned looking gadgets. Mips fans may have an opinion about that, but that’s reality.

I mean it is not that there is just one supplier of MIPS that is not developing the technology any further as it seems. And it is not that basically all MIPS watches share the same screen. It is just shiny gadgets…

maszop

@Adrian.S I moved from the Vertical 1 to the 2. I was really unsure about AMOLED, but now, for me, MIP is history – I’d never go back.

The only thing I miss is a slightly dimmer mode. ‘Low’ is still a bit too bright, but it’s a small thing they could tweak later.

suuntastic

Moved from Race S to Coros Apex 2 Pro because of MIP Display

Adrian.S

Today I was able to compare the MIP displays on the Coros Nomad and the Suunto V1.

Because of the sapphire crystal, the Suunto has more glare, which makes it a little bit harder to see in the woods. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but rather a characteristic of sapphire glass—and of course, it’s better to have sapphire than standard glass.

I find the maps on the Suunto easier to navigate, although the crown for zooming in and out makes using the map more user-friendly. Coros contain to much data on maps on the small screen 1.3.

The watch faces are a plus for the Coros—I use faces with minimal information anyway, such as time, steps, battery, and heart rate, but the Suunto lacks good watch faces to personalize requirements.

For now, I’ll stay with Suunto until the next major update. If the V1 still doesn’t get an update for maps and those other additional features that are already in the R2/V2, I don’t know if I’ll switch to Coros—maybe they’ll announce the new Coros Vertix 2026.

I’m also wondering if TSS/TSB still holds up after so many years of experience with these metrics. Personally, I still believe these stats don’t fully reflect my training status due to the weekly reset of TSS.

maszop

@Adrian.S said in Suunto Vertical 1 – A Few Questions About the Future + Questions About the Vertical 2 and a Comparison with the Coros Nomad / the New Vertix 2026:

I’m also wondering if TSS/TSB still holds up after so many years of experience with these metrics. Personally, I still believe these stats don’t fully reflect my training status due to the weekly reset of TSS.

But it doesn’t matter. CTL/ATL and TSB are more important.

aiv4r

@Adrian.S Feel similar sometimes, I started to use my Apex 4 more often than Race 2, mostly because of MIP screen and because these days I only do running so it works great.
And also if Suunto keeps adding horoscope adj pace and other hallucinations like that it will be quite difficult to come back eventough I like a lot of things in Suunto world, but I could really live without a lot of it.

But TSS reseting weekly does not really have anything to do with training status, it is the same as saying that weekly milage resets every week (also for example in Coros weekly training load also resets every week)

Highlands

So far, I haven’t seen/read any news/rumors about Vertix 2026.

Adrian.S

@Highlands There was something on Coros’ Instagram, but they haven’t explicitly mentioned a release date or what the new watch will be yet, however, everyone on the Coros Reddit community suspects it will be a new Vertix.

dreamer_

@Highlands said in Suunto Vertical 1 – A Few Questions About the Future + Questions About the Vertical 2 and a Comparison with the Coros Nomad / the New Vertix 2026:

So far, I haven’t seen/read any news/rumors about Vertix 2026.

Its very likely going to be released soon.

Personally, I had the Nomad and it lasted 5 days on my hands (It has the record of the worst experience I have ever had):

The black interface with those super tiny fonts is really bad for MIP. I couldn’t see anything with swimming googles there.
There’s a black datafield at bottom while on workout that nobody understands why considering they have a MIP screen.
But worst thing is navigation. With every turn, the watch goes to the map and you can’t skip that switch (only disabling TBT notifications). When there are many TBT indications, the watch is forcing you to see the map screen all time. It was a very disgusting experience for me.

For the rest, is pretty solid and the screen of the Nomad is very good, more readable than the shapphire + MIP of the Apex 4.

I’m findind Suunto’s LTPO Amoled screens very readable but it’s true that Amoled has a delay between 1-2 seconds with the wrist gesture. You get used to that, though.
The other release that is expected soon is the Race 2 S. In reddit someone said that between Apr-Jun, but there’s nothing. It will be smaller but perhaps they use a new LTPO screen without shapphire.

Highlands

@dreamer_ Race 2S will be very good news for the users who prefer smaller watches. I wonder whether it’ll add anything new to R2/V2 or just a smaller size.

Highlands

@dreamer_ Thank you. Very kind of you to share your experience with Nomad. I guess Coros makes good watches that have their fan base. I’m not one of them though. Been willing to test a Coros for a while now but personally, I don’t enjoy the design. I feel much better in Suunto camp. Suunto design and accuracy are in their own league.

And right after I wrote my previous reply to you I saw this on X:

https://x.com/COROSJapan/status/2057389272303644893/video/1?s=46

Guess, the Vertix 4 is coming.

dreamer_

@Highlands they are also releasing several Pace 4 versions with different bezels or materials.

I think Race 2S will be just an smaller Race 2. I’m really interested because is very likely the screen will be improved, the new HR sensor and perhaps battery life.
It’d be fantastic if it had the flashlight of the V2, since Suunto does not have that yet in an smaller form factor for women/small wrists.

Thanks!!

Highlands

@dreamer_ Another version of Pace 4 as you wrote or perhaps another version of Apex 4.
The post says: “Retaining top-level performance as is,
to a new look and feel.”

I hope they put a sapphire crystal on R2S.