Race S2 -> release?

VoiGAS

@dreamer_ Sounds interesting! In the moment I am happy with my Race S - Vertical1 - Eon core combo, but an Ocean2 with running dynamics, better display and lighter case could replace the whole set

Egika

@dreamer_ said:

@aiv4r as said in other forums and before the end of the year. Very likely (NOT official confirmation), the pending watches are:

Run 2

Race 2 S (name to be confirmed). Mix between V2 and R2 in small form factor?

Ocean 2

Everything is speculation for now.

this is at least 66% wrong…

raven

@aiv4r said:

@raven isn’t Suunto Run similar size to Race S? Suunto Run 2 might be an option, if it would get same OS as the others.

Ah, I always thought it was same as Race / Race 2 but you’re right Run is closer to Race S.

Race S: 45 x 45 x 11.4 mm
Run: 46 x 46 x 11.5 mm
Race 2: 49 x 49 x 12.5 mm

At the time I bought my Race S the Run didn’t exist yet, and when it did come out a few months later it’s weird different OS without SuuntoPlus, combined with the fact I now already had the Race S, kept me from looking too closely at its size.

aiv4r

@dreamer_ said:

@aiv4r as said in other forums and before the end of the year. Very likely (NOT official confirmation), the pending watches are:

Run 2

Race 2 S (name to be confirmed). Mix between V2 and R2 in small form factor?

Ocean 2

Everything is speculation for now.

I do not think this makes sense. Why would you release Run 2 and Race 2S. I would definately go for Run 2.
I am not sure id Ocean needs upgrades for now. So my vote would be for 1 out of 3 is possible.

2b2bff

@dreamer_ I heard:

Run 2
Successor to Race S - closer to the Race 3 than the Race 2.
Race 3 (later)

But who knows…

VoiGAS

@aiv4r I vote for the Ocean. Its the oldest, right?

Tami999

@aiv4r said:

@dreamer_ said:

@aiv4r as said in other forums and before the end of the year. Very likely (NOT official confirmation), the pending watches are:

Run 2

Race 2 S (name to be confirmed). Mix between V2 and R2 in small form factor?

Ocean 2

Everything is speculation for now.

I do not think this makes sense. Why would you release Run 2 and Race 2S. I would definately go for Run 2.
I am not sure id Ocean needs upgrades for now. So my vote would be for 1 out of 3 is possible.

Just my opinion.

Race 2 S - for me is probably next possible watch. From what I’ve seen in real life, on forums, reddit etc. its most entry-level recommended watch. Its my bet it will be next, probably after summer ???

Run 2 - I have no idea why they would do that. With maps it will become Race S. Better OHR sensor? Better hardware only? No idea.

Ocean 2 - Iam not sure (iam not into diving) how popular are hybrids of sport-dive watches. I think its niche (of course I mean not as popular as regular sport watches/smartwatches) and Iam not sure how often Suunto would release these type of watches. I think as company they gonna aim for more popular audience instead of releasing new Ocean every 2 years.
I may be wrong, dont want to be ignorant or insult anyone. Also I would just aim for Ocean 2 in 2 years or something. Plus remember we have just nautic computers.

Probably Race 2 ,S" will be soon (high demand), and Race 3 / Vertical 3 next year. Maybe something new between that… like new Chest Strap?

SergioB

@dreamer_ If I had to speculate, I’d bet on a new watch in a completely new series. It would be similar to the Run, but with many more smartwatch features—like NFC payments and so on—to target a different type of user who only occasionally does sports and prefers a smartwatch feel.
It would be somewhat similar to the Suunto 7

dreamer_

@Tami999 everything is just speculation of anonymous users at forums. People is really expecting the “Race 2 S”

About the Run 2 I disagree. There’s room for an improved version with more S+ support, better charger, better screen, new HR sensor, better battery life and breadcrumb navigation. With only those things you have a very interesting evolution.
Or perhaps the “Race 2 S” has a physical flashlight or a bigger/better screen (1.4 inches fits), charger, HR sensor…+ everything the Race S has and the Run not, …who knows. I also heard what @2b2bff said in his last post (everything is speculation)

If we look at other brands (I.E Coros) they also have things like the Pace 4 and Pace Pro (there is also an speculation about the Pace Pro 2 very soon and the Pace 4 is very new yet)

GiPFELKiND

@dreamer_ i think it will be a new heart rate belt. Today suunto has Something at the FCCID Website

Tami999

@GiPFELKiND said:

@dreamer_ i think it will be a new heart rate belt. Today suunto has Something at the FCCID Website

Iam interested. Current one is already long on market if I am not wrong. Wonder what new would eventually bring.

SamppaP

@Tami999 if there is a new hr belt, could it have some improvements for zonesense? Maybe more accurate R-R data or something?
I hope they could make the strap a bit more durable.

VoiGAS

@Tami999 Running dynamics would also be great, a LED indicator and maybe a diving related feature for Ocean/Nautic. Improved Dive track with the additional sensors from Running dynamics maybe? Plus the better quality for Zonesense and ECG

A lot of things are possible

GiPFELKiND

@VoiGAS

Nelson Diogo

Suunto needs to make their mind about what they want to achieve with Suunto Run.

Suunto Run without any way to send workouts from outside platforms (or even the AI plans…) is a completely half baked product. We have SuuntoPlus Guides created directly on the Suunto App but then nothing else works.

Suunto really needs to focus on training planning and less on hardware:

We can’t plan a simple workout in the app calendar or add a race/event.
No web platform for training analysis and workout planning.

I don’t need new features or new watch versions. Suunto Run, Race S, or Race 2 are perfectly fine. But they don’t to have a clear direction. Suunto Run has somes features that other Suunto watches don’t have, like resume later, but lacks others.

BokiRun

@Nelson-Diogo
As a Suunto run user i totally agree with you. It seems like an unfinished product only because of many software problems. But let me praise something: gps, build quality and appearance, and a very good optical pulse sensor (they fixed that with the last updates).
I am getting more and more disappointed to think about moving to a new ship. Waiting to see if the suunto race s2 comes out soon. I don’t want a big watch on my wrist.

elbee

@Nelson-Diogo

I know quite a few amateur athletes in my athletics club who just want a not that expensive sportwatch that just records their activities. Nobody uses structured workouts.

I think the Suunto run ticks a lot of boxes for that group, except, it’s not from the only brand everyone knows.

More serious athletes first want navigation, preferably with maps, so they can enter trailruns which only provide a gpx.

And there is a handful of people who look at the data or use it to do predefined intervals, or follow a (ai) coach.

Nelson Diogo

@BokiRun Yes at least we have those. Indeed the build quality, general UX (watch and app), GPS and OHR are very good.

One other issue is with the Suunto Smart Belt. Sent mine to suunto, received a new one 2 weeks ago and it doesn’t work. It’s completely broken, since it didn’t work with the watch or apps. Even tried with my son’s Forerunner 55. The chest straps suffer from serious quality control issues.

Nelson Diogo

@elbee I agree and being involved in running for 15 years I know lots of people that doesn’t care about structured workouts but since Suunto Run supports them there should be a way to plan them more efficiently. Every competitor watch has that possibility (Forerunner 55 or Coros Pace) so l think that a watch aimed at runners should have it. It’s part of the future progression of many runners. Not all but many.

BokiRun

@Nelson-Diogo
I gave up on the Suunto smart belt. I now use the igpsport heart rate monitor and it works great with the watch.