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    • strainS Offline
      strain Bronze Member @snow*
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      I’ve been using the Race 3s for the past week. I was hopeful for the AI coach especially since it was marketed as being able to create workouts for you but from my testing, it fails to replicate instructions to create a power based workout. My instructions were also very detailed. I’ve reported this to Suunto.

      For some reason, it builds the workout/guide as a heart rate workout and when questioned, it says that it made a mistake. After telling it to rebuild the guide, it tells me that it can’t faithfully reproduce it because it keeps making the same mistake again lol. It is either this response, or it says that the guide making feature is not available currently.

      Hopefully they make this work fully by the time it launches with an actual price tag because I would be pretty disappointed if I paid money for this.

      Suunto:
      Race 2 Ti

      Other Brands:
      Fenix 8 Pro
      Apex 4

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        strain Bronze Member @2b2bff
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        @2b2bff Yeah the price is quite prohibitive and apart from the price, I really like the look and feel of the watch.

        The Suunto Run 2 felt like a toy and it was quite laggy overall. The OS was weird too and the lack of suunto guides really made me quite annoyed. I also felt like at the price of the Run 2, I would have preferred to just buy a coros pace 4.

        My Race 2 Ti is nice but it is quite a big watch and you can definitely feel the weight in day to day use.

        The 3s fits the middle ground well with better materials but it is also quite expensive comparatively speaking to other suunto watches and also the broader competition.

        I’m fortunate enough to be able to afford trying and keeping the watches I like but the price is still quite jarring in my opinion.

        Suunto:
        Race 2 Ti

        Other Brands:
        Fenix 8 Pro
        Apex 4

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          Damien 0 @strain
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          Hi,
          I bought my first sports watch 2 weeks ago and chose Suunto for its versatility and measurement quality, atonomy (également 5 days trek) even though I mainly use it for swimming, where the performance seems quite acceptable so far.

          Overall, I am happy with the size, although I would have preferred a slightly smaller format for outdoor activities, such as 44 mm. However, since it is not my daily watch, I can accept 46 mm.

          I am quite satisfied with the overall quality and the simplicity of the menus, which works well for me as someone discovering the sports watch world.

          Regarding the price, which many people said was expensive, my very personal view—though I can understand others having different opinions—is that paying €400 or €500 for a sports watch does not make much of a difference when yours wages allows you to spend more than €300 for a watch.
          I believe Suunto positions itself on high-quality hardware and that comes at a price; a 10% or 20% difference is not a deciding factor for me.

          My main slight disappointment is that the watch is primarily focused on running—with the name Race S, that makes sense—but I would have preferred or liked to have more plans and training options, especially Coach AI for swimming (and cycling).

          Regards
          Damien

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            2b2bff Gold Members
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            I wonder how Resources and Sleep Tracking is with the Race 3S, at it seemed to be worse with the Race 2 than it has been with the Race S…

            Suunto Race S
            Garmin Fenix 8

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              aiv4r Silver Members @2b2bff
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              @2b2bff it should not be different from watch to watch there is no hardware element in that algo.

              Suunto Race 2 (Titanium Trail)
              Suunto Vertical (Titanium Solar Forest)

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                2b2bff Gold Members @aiv4r
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                @aiv4r sure, there are different HR sensors and different algos around them…

                Suunto Race S
                Garmin Fenix 8

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                  aiv4r Silver Members @2b2bff
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                  @2b2bff HR should not be that different even with shitty sensor to impact that too much in my opinion, but with Suunto you never know 🙂

                  Suunto Race 2 (Titanium Trail)
                  Suunto Vertical (Titanium Solar Forest)

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                    Egika Platinum Member @aiv4r
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                    @aiv4r both the sensor and the algorithm has changed compared to Race 2. Suunto is now using their own sleep algorithms instead of licensing 3rd party.

                    t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Titanium, S9PP Titanium, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium, Race S Titanium Courtney, Run Lime, Race 2, Vertical 2 Titanium, Race 3s

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                      aiv4r Silver Members @Egika
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                      @Egika oh I never heard that sleep algo changed. My bad in that case.

                      Suunto Race 2 (Titanium Trail)
                      Suunto Vertical (Titanium Solar Forest)

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                        snow* @Egika
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                        @Egika said:

                        Suunto is now using their own sleep algorithms instead of licensing 3rd party

                        Is it the same algo I have on Run 2?

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                          Egika Platinum Member @snow*
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                          @snow said:

                          @Egika said:

                          Suunto is now using their own sleep algorithms instead of licensing 3rd party

                          Is it the same algo I have on Run 2?

                          Not sure

                          t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Titanium, S9PP Titanium, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium, Race S Titanium Courtney, Run Lime, Race 2, Vertical 2 Titanium, Race 3s

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                            2b2bff Gold Members @Damien 0
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                            @Damien-0 said:

                            My main slight disappointment is that the watch is primarily focused on running—with the name Race S, that makes sense—but I would have preferred or liked to have more plans and training options, especially Coach AI for swimming (and cycling).

                            Maybe the AI coach is, the watch isn’t too much run focused. The really run focused watch is the Run…

                            Suunto Race S
                            Garmin Fenix 8

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                              strain Bronze Member @Egika
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                              @Egika said:

                              @aiv4r both the sensor and the algorithm has changed compared to Race 2. Suunto is now using their own sleep algorithms instead of licensing 3rd party.

                              Interesting. If this is the case then I do notice a slight difference compared to my race 2. For my race 2, it would never detect periods of being “awake”. For the first time ever I have noticed instances where it has detected times when it thought I was awake. I don’t know for sure how accurate it is but I do notice this

                              Suunto:
                              Race 2 Ti

                              Other Brands:
                              Fenix 8 Pro
                              Apex 4

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                                MLM31 @2b2bff
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                                @2b2bff Although it is not one of my main selection criteria, the sleep tracking works very well for me.

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                                  Tieutieu Platinum Member
                                  last edited by Tieutieu

                                  First night at my wrist :
                                  No issue, sleep and VFC values in my usual range
                                  Lost only 2% batterie (with my SRs it was more around 5 to 7% lately).

                                  Exact Same settings than on my SRs :

                                  • backlight to low
                                  • turn to raise display only
                                  • no notifications
                                  • auto DND on during sleep time
                                  • sleep time : 11pm to 7am

                                  I’ll tested it on activity tonight, but for now I experience what I expected to : a much faster ui, improved build with ti (my SRs was not titanium) ; battery life seems also very promissing for now.

                                  To be clear : I bought it for the potential, and also because I wanted my son to have a watch to follow his hr - I gave him my SRs (he is an athlete - lot of swiming, and he starts to run…but he is suffering benign tachycardia crises from time to time. Tracking ponctual crises is medicaly advised). (And also because I love the brand)

                                  At this point I would not espacially recommand anyone happy with his SRs to do the switch, unless money is not a deal.
                                  But It’s a very nice update.

                                  But those searching for an older watch replacement (S9p, S9pp, S9…) , and searching for a small size, I would definitively recommand to go for this SRs3 instead of SRs (price considerations appart)

                                  Suunto’s devices at home :
                                  On use : SV1 Ti Solar, SRs3, SRs, S9pp Ti sand, Suunto Wing & Spark
                                  As collector : S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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                                    VoiGAS Gold Members @Tieutieu
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                                    @Tieutieu How about tha Always On display? Good enough to use it without raise to wake? Or more like the RaceS?


                                    Race S
                                    Vertical Titanium Solar
                                    Ambit3 Vertical
                                    Eon Core

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                                      2b2bff Gold Members @VoiGAS
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                                      @VoiGAS said:

                                      Good enough to use it without raise to wake? Or more like the RaceS?

                                      I have no issues with the AOD on the Race S. Do you find it too dim?

                                      Suunto Race S
                                      Garmin Fenix 8

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                                        VoiGAS Gold Members @2b2bff
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                                        @2b2bff Yes, most of the time. If there is direct sun the light sensor increases brightness enough, but if not its to dark IMHO. Not the “actice” mode, but the “standby” mode.
                                        Activating takes too long for me during running


                                        Race S
                                        Vertical Titanium Solar
                                        Ambit3 Vertical
                                        Eon Core

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                                          2b2bff Gold Members @VoiGAS
                                          last edited by

                                          @VoiGAS when running I use always on. Had no issues with this setting…

                                          Suunto Race S
                                          Garmin Fenix 8

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                                            Tieutieu Platinum Member @VoiGAS
                                            last edited by

                                            @VoiGAS no idea yet, I didn’t tested aod. But raise
                                            To wake works well

                                            Suunto’s devices at home :
                                            On use : SV1 Ti Solar, SRs3, SRs, S9pp Ti sand, Suunto Wing & Spark
                                            As collector : S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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