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    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
    last edited by 18 Jan 2019, 08:30

    @Yannis-Belouris I asked about

    For us, it seems we are fighting an unprovoked, pointless and unnecessary war.

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    Creator of Quantified-Self.io
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      GingerBeardMan Bronze Member
      last edited by 18 Jan 2019, 08:32

      Ambit, Ambit2, M-series, T-series and Quest Collection watches
      These Suunto products will not be compatible with Suunto app due to no mobile connectivity (Bluetooth).

      Is it not possible to allow connectivity between older devices and the suunto app via Suunto link?
      I still have to use Suunto link to upgrade my Suunto 9 so if it is still going to be part of the suunto ecosystem, why not use it as a gateway for older devices?

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        A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
        last edited by 18 Jan 2019, 08:34

        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
        I would must rather be fighting for FW features and/or how to integrate some of the analysis tools that are available online into the platform rather than begging to keep existing functionality alive.

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          ColdBeer @Guest
          last edited by 18 Jan 2019, 08:34

          @Yannis-Belouris said in Important news concerning our digital services:

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
          Regardless if I feel that a large portion of users do not care if there is a web interface or not, as long as they have strava sync, we can agree that this is a -planned- regression of functionality. We could be proven wrong.

          Don’t be confused: Strava is a social network, not a workout analysis solution (even if you’re a “summit user” and pay for it). MC is 2 or 3 light years ago from Strava.

          var Watch="Garmin Forerunner 735XT", WatchFw="9.40";
          var Phone="Samsung Galaxy S8", PhoneOS="Android 9.0.0";

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            A Former User @ColdBeer
            last edited by A Former User 18 Jan 2019, 08:35

            @ColdBeer Was not talking about me. Don’t care for strava one bit. But some of my friends are asking me if their activity has been uploaded to strava first and then worry about intervals etc.

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              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
              last edited by 18 Jan 2019, 08:37

              @Yannis-Belouris I am kinda confused. There is that announcement that MC will go off.
              What stops you to “fight” for new features especially this time for the new platform, along with the affected users ( I am assuming that perhaps you where not due to your involvement with the forum/Sa app dont get me wrong)

              Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
              Creator of Quantified-Self.io
              youtube.com/c/dimitrioskanellopoulos
              https://instagram.com/dimitrioskanellopoulos
              https://www.strava.com/athletes/7586105

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                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @ColdBeer
                last edited by 18 Jan 2019, 08:38

                @ColdBeer said in Important news concerning our digital services:

                @Yannis-Belouris said in Important news concerning our digital services:

                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                Regardless if I feel that a large portion of users do not care if there is a web interface or not, as long as they have strava sync, we can agree that this is a -planned- regression of functionality. We could be proven wrong.

                Don’t be confused: Strava is a social network, not a workout analysis solution (even if you’re a “summit user” and pay for it). MC is 2 or 3 light years ago from Strava.

                Its not a social network for me. I do well use it’s features. I can see mostly the same stuff with MC (for me ) and some things are even better like the relative effort.

                I dont want to compare the platforms but just to say Strava is social only it’s not true.

                Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
                Creator of Quantified-Self.io
                youtube.com/c/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                https://instagram.com/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                https://www.strava.com/athletes/7586105

                E C ? 3 Replies Last reply 18 Jan 2019, 08:42 Reply Quote 1
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                  ColdBeer @Guest
                  last edited by 18 Jan 2019, 08:39

                  @Yannis-Belouris Sure! And, as you know, all that people start for a few weeks worrying about Strava and after that, start to worrying about their workouts… It’s obvious. Anyway, after 2 years of training, I’m still worrying about Strava uploads, as my friends (and my wife) still check if I’m doing the right things there. It’s funny, but just stop here.

                  var Watch="Garmin Forerunner 735XT", WatchFw="9.40";
                  var Phone="Samsung Galaxy S8", PhoneOS="Android 9.0.0";

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                    A Former User @Luís Pinto
                    last edited by 18 Jan 2019, 08:41

                    @Luís-Pinto I am not in love with MC.
                    My biggest worry is that the eventual successor, be it app only or app+web, will be missing features.
                    It creates uncertainty. Maybe everything will be there, but most probably not.
                    Much like how spartans are still missing features like apps, structured intervals etc compared to Ambits.

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                      ese75 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                      last edited by 18 Jan 2019, 08:42

                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos It’s the same for me. I’m used to “train” on the same routes planned both in SA than Strava and use the Strava platform to compare my sectors to other user’s sectors, as a sort of test. I Think that I can improve myself watching only my achievements time after time, but I improve better if I also compare that results with other friends or atlethes on the same route

                      Watch: Spartan Trainer Wrist Blue
                      Watch fw: 2.5.20
                      Phone: iPhone 7 iOS Beta 12.1.3
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                        ColdBeer @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                        last edited by 18 Jan 2019, 08:44

                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I were using Strava Summit for 60 days (free option after syncing with SA), and I must say it’s not valid in the way I use it. And as far as I know how some real athletes and trainers I know they analyze their trainings, I could say it’s not useful for most of them.

                        var Watch="Garmin Forerunner 735XT", WatchFw="9.40";
                        var Phone="Samsung Galaxy S8", PhoneOS="Android 9.0.0";

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                          A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                          last edited by 18 Jan 2019, 08:45

                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                          Paid versions of Strava, TP, etc could be serious tools.
                          Paid being the important word here.
                          Non paid versions are very dumped down.
                          This situation makes us feel poorer.
                          The rich kids (F@rmin) get a proper sets of tools and we have to beg, steal or pay for the same thing.

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                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                            last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos 18 Jan 2019, 08:48

                            @ColdBeer @Yannis-Belouris haven’t we iterated over this discussion quite a lot? I have heard quite the same here. My intention for commenting was at least to understand why the non-provoked fight.

                            To debate if another service is useless to you , paid or not, I would not like todo that IN THIS THREAD.

                            Again if you do feel that you have a fight to win, as Spartan users, please give space to the people that have a bigger one, such as A2, and the non BT devices.

                            To my eyes the biggest problem here are these users mainly and I would love to get the feedback, not debate again about Strava features paid and TP.

                            Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
                            Creator of Quantified-Self.io
                            youtube.com/c/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                            https://instagram.com/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                            https://www.strava.com/athletes/7586105

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                              Shaun Hubbard
                              last edited by 18 Jan 2019, 08:53

                              Wish Sunnto would work on bugs etc. My Spartan Ultra Titanium keeps ‘‘locking up’’ I have to reset it. I thought it was only when connected to my laptop, but it isn’t. fed up with it now, and I’m not the only one who has this problem.

                              If Movescount goes, or when it goes. So will I!!! Are you there Suunto!!!

                              It’s my 3rd Suunto watch, but sadly it will be my last. Luckily, we have competition 😉

                              If they made Movescount the best, people would move to Suunto. clearly moves do NOT count 😉

                              I haven’t bothered looking at the compaction yet but what would you guys recommend? I need a web based programme, I have a smart phone but I don’t really like using it for sport.

                              I also use a Stryd and would like a power meter for my road bike.

                              Cheers S

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                                radlwadl Bronze Member
                                last edited by 18 Jan 2019, 08:53

                                A solution for older watches like Ambit2 without bluetooth connectivity is a must. No further arguments required, everything’s already mentioned.
                                Very bad decision!

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                                  A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                  last edited by 18 Jan 2019, 08:58

                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                                  You are unnecessarily jumpy.
                                  This is a fight. A fight to keep functionality on the same level as today both for all. Ambits 1,2,3 and the rest.
                                  Everybody is losing something and I empathize with everyone’s pain regarding this digital plans.

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                                    Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Guest
                                    last edited by Luís Pinto 18 Jan 2019, 09:00

                                    @Yannis-Belouris all thinking are welcome. Suunto can bring structured Very quickly if they want… Stryd team is limited and this week they bring structured for AW as beta!

                                    SR
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                                      ColdBeer @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                      last edited by 18 Jan 2019, 09:00

                                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Important news concerning our digital services:

                                      @ColdBeer @Yannis-Belouris haven’t we iterated over this discussion quite a lot? I have heard quite the same here. My intention for commenting was at least to understand why the non-provoked fight.

                                      To debate if another service is useless to you , paid or not, I would not like todo that IN THIS THREAD.

                                      Again if you do feel that you have a fight to win, as Spartan users, please give space to the people that have a bigger one, such as A2, and the non BT devices.

                                      To my eyes the biggest problem here are these users mainly and I would love to get the feedback, not debate again about Strava features paid and TP.

                                      The debate is here, and IMHO the Suunto communication is making EVERY Suunto user to lose something (full service, medium service, or something). It’s the worst way to say something to customers, mixing bad news for everyone. So please, if Suunto -as it seems- is trying to give spartan users no solution to workout analysis and say there are some others payment platforms to do so, don’t try shut up me just because I’m less hurt than others (something that I’m sure about).

                                      var Watch="Garmin Forerunner 735XT", WatchFw="9.40";
                                      var Phone="Samsung Galaxy S8", PhoneOS="Android 9.0.0";

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                                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
                                        last edited by 18 Jan 2019, 09:00

                                        @Yannis-Belouris let keep the discussion then focused on what we can do and to provide ideas or even bad sentiment / feedback. I understand now, about the provoked fight I asked about.

                                        Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
                                        Creator of Quantified-Self.io
                                        youtube.com/c/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                                        https://instagram.com/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                                        https://www.strava.com/athletes/7586105

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                                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @ColdBeer
                                          last edited by 18 Jan 2019, 09:02

                                          @ColdBeer again I am not trying to shut you up. But to be honest take a look further app, you have said this again in different words. I am just asking to give space to other subjects and users, You are well heard.

                                          Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
                                          Creator of Quantified-Self.io
                                          youtube.com/c/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                                          https://instagram.com/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                                          https://www.strava.com/athletes/7586105

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