Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin

@patrick-löffler said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

@vgnjhd What are your reasons? I do not want to lower your excitement but the 19.20 firmware update process for the Fenix is bumpy and this seems to me getting the new normal at Garmin.

Honestly more and more I understand that there are no perfect brands, regarding models, only the ambits were perfect heheh
Regarding the instability of garmin, yes it is known.
On the 945 LTE there are small ( and big bugs) that almost seems impossible that a device gets out to the market like that…

Here 945 vs 945 lte on the right…with heart rate number being minuscule…
but it has other advantages…specialy regarding customizability. And I think sometimes it makes you “forget” the bugs. Depends on the uses…and needs.
Regarding the fenix 6, I had a 6s sapphire and I think it was stable, it was just unconfortable for me.
For Suunto I guess the stability is better, construction also, but missing some customization and features. And sometimes it “annoys” some users, because you can see those features even in cheaper garmins.
So the best is to have both

surfboomerang

@andré-faria Personally I prefer a stable watch with less features then a buggy one with tons of features.
The first one I can trust what I have and what I can expect. The other one… well, I think I would go to a casino if I want a gamble.

@surfboomerang said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

@andré-faria Personally I prefer a stable watch with less features then a buggy one with tons of features.
The first one I can trust what I have and what I can expect. The other one… well, I think I would go to a casino if I want a gamble.

Yes, but maybe someone prefers the other way around. Depends on what features are not working well/stable and which ones you need.
For someone that bought a 9 peak because of asthetics, weight and a bit to be a “fitness tracker” and do some sports, maybe it annoys them to have the resources bug, and to not have customization of watchfaces.
For someone that is an avid hiker, maybe it annoys that garmin have/had some altitude bugs…

surfboomerang

@andré-faria True, as long as those features and bugs don’t interfere with each other. For example I don’t want a huge battery drain or crashes because some feature I don’t use are bugging in the background and thus are interfering with the features I do use.

philippe makowski

@sartoric said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

Ambit 3 can be paired to Suunto App … but as you’ve already decided … farewell

I tried, many times, no success.
Suunto is leaving me with a Ambit3 Peak with less functionality.
I can’t upload routes and download tracks.
At least Garmin allow me to simply connect it as usb device mounted as a disk, so I can do it.
The Suunto App is a nightmare, it lost connection each time.
And I don’t want to use a “smartphone”.

Brad_Olwin

@philippe-makowski This is not true with the release of Suuntolink 4. Could you respond in the other post and actually try to use the new release before making the statements. I have an Ambit3 Peak and it is working just fine with the new Suuntolink.

philippe makowski

@brad_olwin and how do create a account ?
“Note: You can only Log in with an already created Suunto app account (see above). You cannot create a new account in SuuntoLink.”

@philippe-makowski said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

@brad_olwin and how do create a account ?
“Note: You can only Log in with an already created Suunto app account (see above). You cannot create a new account in SuuntoLink.”

I think @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos may help you.

Mff73

@philippe-makowski
working great with my Ambit1.

and to create an account, either you may find a smartphone, install the app, create and uninstall, or you could try to create one in https://www.sports-tracker.com/ (which is not SuuntoApp web management, but it could do the trick (i guess, never tried)).
Just workarounds ideas, not perfect solutions though, but…

Fenr1r

@mff73 Interesting.

S4-created modes? Imported from MC? Copied from watch?

Mff73

@fenr1r said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

@mff73 Interesting.

S4-created modes? Imported from MC? Copied from watch?

don’t know if it is cloud settings saved from MC or read directly from watch

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@mff73 no mc connection anymore that’s it.

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos but it is still there in watches menu for my Ambit. Is it safe if I remove the watch from SuuntoLink and re-add it without Movescount account?

BTW, great update. Thank you Suunto devs.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@andrasveres correct. Sorry I mean no more connection for getting sport modes etc.

Mff73

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

@mff73 no mc connection anymore that’s it.

clear, thanks.
I imagine that sportsmode are read by SL from watch, then SL UI let us manipulate, and send back to watch ? No suunto cloud savings ?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@mff73 I don’t know to answer that from the top of my head. Maybe Pavel can

pavel.samokha

@mff73 no cloud saving, one can edit/delete modes existing on the watch or create a new one

philippe makowski

@brad_olwin said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

@philippe-makowski I have an Ambit3 Peak and it is working just fine with the new Suuntolink.

nope, I still can’t upload route and can’t download track
this update is not enough.

suzzlo

I don’t own any Ambit/Traverse but I’m completely surprised about SuuntoLink 4 changes to support them into new SA ecosystem (just checked Joaquin’s video). Probably there will be some bugs, and a new SA account needs to be done, but Suunto is providing a solution for these old watches instead of just looking forward and adding new features to new S9P and SA mobile.

At my eyes, it’s clear that Suunto is listening users (Ambit/traverse) and taking care of them, and not just trying to sell new watches. It’s good for users with old watches, it’s good for the planet, well done!!!

BR

Brad_Olwin

@philippe-makowski You need to use Suunto App for creating routes, you can probably do this with SportsTracker as well, which has a web interface.