The Future of SuuntoLink / Movesink / DM

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@margusl how did you get the IBI from the Suunto app?

Yes the sum should match pretty much the activity Absolute duration aka, should include pauses as IBI should come in while paused to maintain the time delta.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@margusl I like the plot of those IBI what are the y and x Axis values?
I do have raw ibi data access from the watches and I am developing a tool so I might be able to support those graphs as well.

[margusl]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in The Future of SuuntoLink / Movesink / DM:

@margusl how did you get the IBI from the Suunto app?

Suunto app syncs to both Strava & TP . And Strava /export_original output is a fit file with those hrv records. As said, TP export for the same activity is exactly the same.

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in The Future of SuuntoLink / Movesink / DM:

@margusl I like the plot of those IBI what are the y and x Axis values?

Plots are from Runalyze,
1st R-R intervals plot is samples [ms] over activity duration [hh:mm:ss]
2nd successive differences plot is time diff [ms] over activity duration [hh:mm:ss]
3rd is Poincaré plot, RR interval against next interval or RR(n)[ms] as x vs RR(n+1) [ms] as y

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@margusl are you sure it has hrv?

On the fit file records?

Where exactly on the fit file because I can’t find any ibi or HRV data

[margusl]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in The Future of SuuntoLink / Movesink / DM:

@margusl are you sure it has hrv?

On the fit file records?

Where exactly on the fit file because I can’t find any ibi or HRV data

Yes, as you see from above snippets, hrv messages are all over the place, after every single timestamped record thorugh whole file, from top to bottom. Those snippets are from csv output of FitToCsv.bat, from FIT SDK. I would be bit suprised if hrv presence is related to watch model (A3P in my case) , but more than likely HR source plays a role here. Those are from Polar H10.
There’s one thing I did not check - there’s a chance that SA fit exports include just a fake HRV, calculated form HR. Though it would be verry much same as averaging.

Just check again, activity was synced with SA today few hours ago and Strava export_original still returns fit-file with hrv messages:

Data,1,hrv,time,"0.391",s,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Data,3,record,timestamp,"917371937",s,position_lat,"708543526",semicircles,position_long,"294059066",semicircles,distance,"15300.0",m,heart_ra
Data,1,hrv,time,"0.39",s,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Data,3,record,timestamp,"917371938",s,position_lat,"708543276",semicircles,position_long,"294058231",semicircles,distance,"15304.0",m,heart_ra
Data,1,hrv,time,"0.387",s,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Data,3,record,timestamp,"917371939",s,position_lat,"708542977",semicircles,position_long,"294057253",semicircles,distance,"15310.0",m,heart_ra
Data,1,hrv,time,"0.388",s,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Data,2,record,timestamp,"917371940",s,position_lat,"708542691",semicircles,position_long,"294056298",semicircles,distance,"15315.0",m,heart_ra
Data,1,hrv,time,"0.293",s,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Data,2,record,timestamp,"917371941",s,position_lat,"708542500",semicircles,position_long,"294055356",semicircles,distance,"15320.0",m,heart_ra
Data,1,hrv,time,"0.391",s,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Data,2,record,timestamp,"917371942",s,position_lat,"708542285",semicircles,position_long,"294054378",semicircles,distance,"15325.0",m,heart_ra
Data,1,hrv,time,"0.38",s,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Data,2,record,timestamp,"917371943",s,position_lat,"708542059",semicircles,position_long,"294053411",semicircles,distance,"15330.0",m,heart_ra
Data,1,hrv,time,"0.377",s,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Data,2,record,timestamp,"917371944",s,position_lat,"708541761",semicircles,position_long,"294052540",semicircles,distance,"15335.0",m,heart_ra
Data,1,hrv,time,"0.376",s,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@margusl this is something the fitTocsv does. SA does not include hrv so you are most probably seeing generated data.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@margusl However you might also be right. I am now checking the fitSDK. Myabe the lib I am using is more old. I ll get back to you about this

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@margusl You are right.

I had forgotten about this see

This is the comparison on a 50+minutes activity.

Pink: Raw watch IBI via cable
Purple: SA FIT IBI

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@margusl this should be fixed from today on

[JonJo]

The moveslink also manage updates of satellite position data. Can I update satellite position data after 2020 for my Ambit 1?