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    pgrey Bronze Member @Maarten Thys
    last edited by pgrey 5 Oct 2019, 18:44 10 May 2019, 18:40

    @Maarten-Thys Or simply just being able to “install new Sport Modes”, or change/set your physical characteristics (height, weight, age, HR zones, etc).

    None of this is in SA, and none of seems to be planned for the Ambit3. As of now, as far as I can tell, when the service goes down, you “have whatever was set, on your watch, from that point forward, period”.

    Think about that “resale proposition”, eh? There will be ads like “Ambit 3S, with user 5’8”, 158lb, 50’s, with HR zone 5 172-184, and the sports installed: cycling, alpine skiing, hiking…".
    It’s a bit like selling a piece of clothing, it all has to fit the buyer, just-so, or it’s not much use to them…

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      Egika Platinum Member @Maarten Thys
      last edited by 11 May 2019, 05:05

      @Maarten-Thys the current iOS beta of the Suunto App can export GPX files - no problem here with this function

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        A Former User @Egika
        last edited by 11 May 2019, 06:41

        @Egika I thank you if you could tell me where this function is in Suunto App (1.9.0 (7062))
        Greetings.

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          Bulkan Moderator
          last edited by 11 May 2019, 07:55

          Well movescount is not for analysis, it gives you data but no data for analysis. In that case use WKO4 or ColdenCheetah.

          I find very useful change the sports mode in the fly with my phone, create routes with my phone if I am in a new place…

          But I agree with you in the “only phone solution” is not as good as phone+computer. We need a web page. Sports-tracker have it I don’t get why Suunto won’t.

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            Bulkan Moderator @Guest
            last edited by 11 May 2019, 07:56

            @Nutet in the last beta there isn’t GPX export, at least in the public beta.

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              Egika Platinum Member @Guest
              last edited by Egika 5 Nov 2019, 08:22 11 May 2019, 08:20

              @Nutet depends on where you are in the app:

              a) in route planning: open the route and in the map section there will be a “share” button. You then share a link that will download the gpx file.
              b) recorded activitites: open the activity, the tap the three dots in the top right corner. Tap “save route”. Then proceed with a)

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                sartoric Moderator @Egika
                last edited by 11 May 2019, 11:22

                @Egika
                iOS only atm 😉

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                  A Former User @Egika
                  last edited by 11 May 2019, 18:42

                  @Egika Thanks for your answer. This action had already been done, but the saved route data is different, the distance is never the same, and the file shared-route.gpx is totally useless to work because there is a lack of data, for example, the total time of the exercise. It is a pathetic file!
                  I hope they solve it someday, but I am really disappointed.☹ ☹

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                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @Guest
                    last edited by 12 May 2019, 13:12

                    @Nutet said in The Useless Chase of Technology:

                    @Egika Thanks for your answer. This action had already been done, but the saved route data is different, the distance is never the same, and the file shared-route.gpx is totally useless to work because there is a lack of data, for example, the total time of the exercise. It is a pathetic file!
                    I hope they solve it someday, but I am really disappointed.☹ ☹

                    The export is not intended to provide any data, it is intended only to provide a route so there is nothing wrong with it. If you want to download the entire workout this tool will allow you to do that. https://forum.suunto.com/topic/2499/download-a-fit-file-from-suunto-app

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                      A Former User @Brad_Olwin
                      last edited by 12 May 2019, 16:00

                      @Brad_Olwin I have already tried the solution proposed by dimitrios-kanellopoulos and it works perfectly. This is how I communicated it.
                      Thank you.

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                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @Guest
                        last edited by 13 May 2019, 02:04

                        @Nutet said in The Useless Chase of Technology:

                        @Brad_Olwin I have already tried the solution proposed by dimitrios-kanellopoulos and it works perfectly. This is how I communicated it.
                        Thank you.

                        So you understand the route export serves a different purpose. You can share routes with others.

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                          A Former User @Brad_Olwin
                          last edited by 13 May 2019, 06:00

                          @Brad_Olwin Yes, but I still do not understand how to save an activity as a route, the total time of the activity is never correct.
                          It is always superior in the saved route.

                          Examples:
                          Trekking activity in Suunto app = time 1: 51’14
                          Saved route: time 2: 06 ’
                          Trekking activity in Suunto app = time 1: 19’27
                          Saved route: time 1:32 ’

                          And it is always like this in all the routes that I keep.
                          Why this difference?..

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                            Egika Platinum Member @Guest
                            last edited by 13 May 2019, 07:14

                            @Nutet If you save an activity as a route, by default it should not have any time at all. Because it is just the GPS track information - nothing more.
                            Now if you see a time being displayed here - maybe it takes some default speed to estimate a time - which I understand can be misleading…

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                              Brad_Olwin Moderator @Guest
                              last edited by 14 May 2019, 17:26

                              @Nutet To save a route in iOS you touch the three buttons on the top of the page when you have the exercise open. Once you click “Save Route” you have options to modify the speed and the type of activity. See screenshots. I am not sure you completely understand how route to gpx works and this will help.
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                                lohtse
                                last edited by 14 May 2019, 17:44

                                For me the worst part about the Suunto app is it is based around SPORTS such as running NOT outdoor activities such as mountaineering… Am fed up of this already…

                                There seems to be no thought about what their user base’s actually are. Instead they focus on Social media and traditional style sports… I am so disappointed with Suunto…

                                This has seriously damaged my loyalty with them…

                                I have used their watch’s since the Vector and now on an Ambit 3 Peak which I fear will be nothing more than a fancy watch/paper weight if they don’t pull the finger out their ar** and ACTUALLY listen to users…

                                Like a few others on this forum and several other forums I am now looking to replace my Beloved A3P with a Garmin device that will function as I require. I hate even the thought of doing that and do hope Suunto provide ALL the functions Movescount app and web provide and with some lovely enhancements which has made the AMBIT range the best in it’s class …

                                But like many others I am not holding my breath…

                                Ambit 3 Peak with HRM, Movescount on Samsung S6 Active,Android 7.1.2…Suunto app installed for test only…

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                                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @lohtse
                                  last edited by 14 May 2019, 17:46

                                  @lohtse Try reading some of this. https://forum.suunto.com/topic/1755/ambit2-spell-it-out-for-me
                                  It may help

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                                    lohtse @Brad_Olwin
                                    last edited by lohtse 15 May 2019, 05:30

                                    @Brad_Olwin I had read that a few days ago. But it does not fill me with any confidence about what the functionality of ANY of the ambit range will be… This is what SUUNTO need to clarify!!! But then if they plan nothing more then basic functionality they will instantly loose a hell of a lot of users so may be thats why they have said very little at all!!!

                                    At the very least all Ambit and Traverse users should continue to have the SAME level of functionality when the move happens… This can be achieved by just KEEPING Movescount… And moving all other devices to the Suunto App platforms…

                                    Surely the cost of keeping Movescount far outways the huge impact the damage caused to them by not supporting Ambits etc will have to them?? It’s already effecting them now and thats before they actually do anything!!!

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                                      A Former User @Brad_Olwin
                                      last edited by 15 May 2019, 10:39

                                      @Brad_Olwin It is right. I had not realized that you can change the speed. When setting the actual speed of the exercise, the time is exact.
                                      Thank you very much for the reply.👍 👍

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                                        A Former User @Egika
                                        last edited by 15 May 2019, 10:42

                                        @Egika Thank you. It’s just as Brad_Olwin explains.

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                                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Guest
                                          last edited by 15 May 2019, 22:03

                                          @Nutet said in The Useless Chase of Technology:

                                          @Brad_Olwin It is right. I had not realized that you can change the speed. When setting the actual speed of the exercise, the time is exact.
                                          Thank you very much for the reply.👍 👍

                                          It is not obvious…I just touch most of the fields trying to figure out if they are active or not, then wipe off the fingerprints:)

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