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    johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @mario_b
    last edited by 20 Aug 2019, 07:55

    @mario_b said in Doubt about Suunto 9 Baro altimeter/barometer calibration:

    @johann-fuehrer just to be sure:

    • you know the exact elevation you are when reading your watch pressure? and the altimeter is set correctly?

    Definitely!

    • you did the fridge test which @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos mentioned above?

    Yes, coming back to exact the same altitude. In my opinion it was very quick, some 5 minutes. But I’ll do it again if you like.

    • you are not inside a building?

    No.
    I did check this also inside the office (open windows), so ambient pressure inside and outside should be equal, no aircondition and the behaviour is the same like outside.

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      mario_b @johann.fuehrer
      last edited by 20 Aug 2019, 07:58

      @johann-fuehrer so maybee it should be recalibrated. i would ask the support.

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        johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @johann.fuehrer
        last edited by 20 Aug 2019, 09:19

        @johann-fuehrer said in Doubt about Suunto 9 Baro altimeter/barometer calibration:

        @mario_b said in Doubt about Suunto 9 Baro altimeter/barometer calibration:

        @johann-fuehrer just to be sure:

        • you know the exact elevation you are when reading your watch pressure? and the altimeter is set correctly?

        Definitely!

        • you did the fridge test which @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos mentioned above?

        Yes, coming back to exact the same altitude. In my opinion it was very quick, some 5 minutes. But I’ll do it again if you like.

        • you are not inside a building?

        No.
        I did check this also inside the office (open windows), so ambient pressure inside and outside should be equal, no air condition and the behavior is the same like outside.

        Finally, meetings are over: watch was 1 hour in the fridge @ 8 degrees Celsius:

        10:00 before fridge, 1024 hPa, 30 C, @ 210 m
        11:00 immediately after taking out the fridge, 1024 hPa, 8 C, @ 210m
        11:15 another 15 mins later…, 1024 hPa, 25 C (still going up) @ 210m

        LOWW & ZAMG still at 1020/1019.5

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          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @johann.fuehrer
          last edited by 20 Aug 2019, 09:32

          @johann-fuehrer if not affected by temp your sensor is pretty well clean and no defect

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            mario_b @johann.fuehrer
            last edited by 20 Aug 2019, 09:40

            @johann-fuehrer are you at the “Umspannwerk Südost”? that’s the only point which is on 200m elevation. according to different maps, the rest of unterlaa is between 165 and 180m of elevation.

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              johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @mario_b
              last edited by 20 Aug 2019, 09:52

              @mario_b I had been, but now im at Hauptbahnhof/Belvedere which is (funny) also at 200m (Info from Geodatenviewer, wien.gv.at).But the pressure in different altitudes here in Vienna is not that big at the moment so that this would have an effect.

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                mario_b @johann.fuehrer
                last edited by 20 Aug 2019, 11:16

                @johann-fuehrer if the baro works, so altimeter is correct, meanwhile i would not mind, because i know over time it slightly drift anyway. but if you care, i would contact the support. the support is really great and helpfull.

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                  Fatih Kale
                  last edited by 2 Dec 2019, 06:44

                  Hi all,

                  Yesterday I ran on a track while raining so watch was covered by my jacket.

                  When I check altitude profile it’s veird. It shows that I went downhill but it’s not possible as I was at the same location turning around. Why could this strange values observed?

                  Here is altitude profile
                  link text

                  Here is the temperature graph
                  link text

                  Suunto 9 Baro

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                    freeheeler @Fatih Kale
                    last edited by 2 Dec 2019, 07:29

                    @Fatih-Kale
                    I’ve seen a similar behavior with my Suunto Core some years ago.
                    When the sensor is covered or in contact with wet skin it seals off and or has a pumping effect.
                    I would expect that this wrong measurement is detected by fusedalti, but until today I still don’t understand how fusedalti works in detail and what it does over an entire activity or when for some reason the alti is completely off reality.

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                      sartoric Moderator @Fatih Kale
                      last edited by 2 Dec 2019, 09:43

                      @Fatih-Kale
                      Check if you also have some magnetic stuff (like magnetic jacket cuffs)

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                        Mff73 @sartoric
                        last edited by 2 Dec 2019, 09:48

                        @sartoric said in Doubt about Suunto 9 Baro altimeter/barometer calibration:

                        @Fatih-Kale
                        Check if you also have some magnetic stuff (like magnetic jacket cuffs)

                        For altitude issue? 🧐

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                          isazi Moderator
                          last edited by 2 Dec 2019, 09:49

                          Also if it was raining and there was a storm coming in, or any other air front, and you just came out of your place, the altimeter may be adapting to pressure change.

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                            sartoric Moderator @Mff73
                            last edited by 2 Dec 2019, 10:00

                            @Mff73
                            mostly for gps (so fusedalti)

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                              Mff73 @sartoric
                              last edited by 2 Dec 2019, 10:50

                              @sartoric said in Doubt about Suunto 9 Baro altimeter/barometer calibration:

                              @Mff73
                              mostly for gps (so fusedalti)

                              I didn’t know about GPS issues with magnetic parts 😞 Compass OK, but GPS.

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                                sartoric Moderator @Mff73
                                last edited by sartoric 12 Feb 2019, 13:38 2 Dec 2019, 13:31

                                @Mff73
                                For sure not the signal , but I won’t discard issues due to components (maybe not directly related to gps) or maybe something related to fusedtrack

                                In an old topic we discussed about issues with OHR reading due to magnetic interference … or maybe was gps … need to check it 😄

                                EDIT :
                                Was fusedtrack (keep asking to calibrate) in that case, don’t you remember ? 😉
                                https://forum.suunto.com/topic/1371/s9-2-4-14-calibrate-fusedtrack-interface-problem-suunto-case-01853829/100

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                                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @Fatih Kale
                                  last edited by 2 Dec 2019, 14:05

                                  @Fatih-Kale If the sensor is covered altitude readings can be wrong or distorted. I have this happen when the sensor is covered by a buff as well.

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                                    Fatih Kale
                                    last edited by 3 Dec 2019, 10:44

                                    Thanks all it was possibly due to sensor was covered.

                                    I had another run last night, this time I strapped watch over the jacket and got correct readings.

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