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    • florin2528F Offline
      florin2528 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
      I’m watching this competition since launching, I’m a paraglider also and the accuracy of the live tracking has improved a lot on the last editions.
      Screenshot from 2019-06-13 12-41-54.png
      They are running on difficult weather conditions, on the valleys etc, and the GPS accuracy was good in general.

      Florin

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        florin2528 Bronze Member @florin2528
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        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

        my bad, the live coverage is covered by flymaster.
        We can remove XAlps from this thread.

        Florin

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        • florin2528F Offline
          florin2528 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

          Out of topic question if you are nice to answer:

          I lost 10% of battery since yesterday(22 hours) with the following setup:

          • no sport
          • walking, calculating the number of steps
          • WHR activated
          • no notification
          • airplane mode ON

          Would that be decent for S9?

          Thanks,
          Florin

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          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @florin2528
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            @florin2528 yes. 10 days about (extrapolated)

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              florin2528 Bronze Member @florin2528
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              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

              I had a run on that Sunday and the track was looking pretty bad:
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              During the update I was in another country with poor internet so I didn’t do the update but the runs were looking ok(not as bad as home, was at the sea side):

              6be0a79a-7b25-451f-9118-5f72d5c85359-image.png

              Turned back home, made the update and I started with a run, but the GPS signal was low, mobile phone did complain about it(some clouds on the sky). Even that the s9 had a better signal than the phone which was not registering GPS at all, only time for more than 1 km.

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              the track was ok in general.

              then I did some biking and the track was looking pretty good:
              d3ecefe6-365d-48fe-ab96-c55e3e3956ab-image.png

              I traveled to Innsbruck and did some hiking and running.
              Hiking was bad:
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              running was good as can be:
              33a6faca-360d-4c54-9dd5-b3f8425e7d9c-image.png

              Now i’m back home and I will continue with another reply.

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                florin2528 Bronze Member @florin2528
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                @florin2528 said in Suunto 9 baro - GPS track not accurate:

                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                Now i got back home and did biking:
                the track was looking more better than when running:
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                but running was ok, but not so accurate, i’m happy with it:
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                In general i think that from GPS point of view it’s fine.

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                • florin2528F Offline
                  florin2528 Bronze Member
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                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                  But i noticed some issues with barometer sensor.
                  I did some diving, maximum one meter deep and the baro indicator was showing me -75, -50.
                  I don’t have the log from that. I was just viewing on the watch with no activity recorded.
                  Being in the see, in the water was still showing me like 12 meters above sea level with GPS active.

                  another issue I notice it\s with WHR, sometimes it starts really slow, and sometimes drops with no reason:
                  3fd616fa-7a99-4745-84ce-11f7f7f4699a-image.png
                  altitude in orange, HR in white.

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                  • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @florin2528
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                    @florin2528 it won’t work with water. 🙂

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                      florin2528 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                      good to know.
                      but being at the sea level it was still showing 12m above?

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                      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @florin2528
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                        @florin2528 hmmm. That depends. Sea level is very hard to match from GPS altitude calibration. Its too many multipath errors (Google this term).

                        In general 12m above sea (1m in reality) might sound much for an error but its not absolute (you see the relative error).

                        For example if you were at some peak of 1700m and you had 1712 it looks less of an error right? Well its really the same.

                        To me the device looks good.

                        What I wonder is how it will perform if you use Galileo.

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                          florin2528 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                          changed the setting, i will let you know on my next run.

                          can i ask other questions/issues related to watch app? if not please ignore

                          do I have the possibility to see the smart sensor battery status on the watch(S9)? can i get notifications when battery is getting low?

                          any updates regarding a shortcut for connectivity on/off?

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                            florin2528 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                            What I wonder is how it will perform if you use Galileo.

                            I tried a run with galileo enabled and the track was not great, GPS signal was green but i was running with a big hill on side.
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                            this was exactly the same path on a track(1 m wide).
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                            Here on the end of track was really open, and I was always doing a round at the end of track on each sides.
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                            Not good at all but i didn’t start my phone to register in the same time to compare.

                            I had enough with this. I didn’t returned, so i will have to stick with what i get from this S9.

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                              johann.fuehrer Bronze Member
                              last edited by johann.fuehrer

                              Galileo GPS Service is down since 12.7. On ALL satellites, maybe this is the reason…

                              https://www.gsc-europa.eu/system-status/Constellation-Information

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                                yeah the timing was not ok 😞

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                                  florin2528 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                  To be honest i made a mistake by keeping this watch.
                                  a run on a sunny day:
                                  Screenshot_20190715-212950_Suunto.jpg

                                  If you don’t fix your issues people will move to garmin.

                                  The heart rate avg is shown 116 on image but on the running details is shown 161.

                                  this is not professional, looks like a startup app.

                                  very disappointed…
                                  Florin

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                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @florin2528
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                                    @florin2528 Hi florin I am sad for this and I am not sure what to say, as that is not my experience. I can help with a refund perhaps so in this case PM me.

                                    The HR btw its not the AVG its the one at the start you can move the finger on the chart and its changes to the one on the map etc.

                                    🙂

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                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @florin2528
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                                      @florin2528 Also Galileo Satellites are down at. Just saying

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                                        florin2528 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos The HR btw its not the AVG its the one at the start you can move the finger on the chart and its changes to the one on the map etc.

                                        My bad.

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                                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @florin2528
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                                          @florin2528 no worries 🙂

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                                            florin2528 Bronze Member
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                                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 baro - GPS track not accurate:

                                            I can help with a refund perhaps so in this case PM me.

                                            I would prefer that Suunto to solve this issues and i see here a product management issue.

                                            • Suunto implemented performance mode, but all corners are cut. what is the customer winning?
                                              this? I was doing a nice turning with a round at the end.
                                              df09e557-9a80-4c35-a4e8-435dd407edf3-image.png

                                            I had in 2004(and still working) a Forerunner 101, and I used for paragliding, and doing thermals i was doing circles with a diameter of 20-30 m and was visible on the track afterwards, Landing and take off was very accurate. It was seeing maximum 12 satellites and showing the level of signal for each of it. GPS accuracy <15 meters.

                                            Now if i’m doing a round with S9 it’s not visible at all with 1s performance. 😞
                                            And yes, i was expecting a better performance than 15 years ago.

                                            you have to rethink the product.

                                            Kind Regards,
                                            Florin

                                            P.S.

                                            snapshot of a track friend with Ambit2:
                                            d7992375-db61-40ec-9f7c-3e02819946d8-image.png

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