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Suunto 9 baro - GPS track not accurate

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    florin2528 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
    last edited by 13 Jun 2019, 09:48

    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
    I’m watching this competition since launching, I’m a paraglider also and the accuracy of the live tracking has improved a lot on the last editions.
    Screenshot from 2019-06-13 12-41-54.png
    They are running on difficult weather conditions, on the valleys etc, and the GPS accuracy was good in general.

    Florin

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      florin2528 Bronze Member @florin2528
      last edited by 13 Jun 2019, 09:52

      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

      my bad, the live coverage is covered by flymaster.
      We can remove XAlps from this thread.

      Florin

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        florin2528 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
        last edited by 14 Jun 2019, 06:30

        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

        Out of topic question if you are nice to answer:

        I lost 10% of battery since yesterday(22 hours) with the following setup:

        • no sport
        • walking, calculating the number of steps
        • WHR activated
        • no notification
        • airplane mode ON

        Would that be decent for S9?

        Thanks,
        Florin

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          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @florin2528
          last edited by 14 Jun 2019, 09:40

          @florin2528 yes. 10 days about (extrapolated)

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            florin2528 Bronze Member @florin2528
            last edited by 10 Jul 2019, 17:30

            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

            I had a run on that Sunday and the track was looking pretty bad:
            6f9b54f1-5a64-46b4-a32c-9b5eca3fe1f3-image.png

            During the update I was in another country with poor internet so I didn’t do the update but the runs were looking ok(not as bad as home, was at the sea side):

            6be0a79a-7b25-451f-9118-5f72d5c85359-image.png

            Turned back home, made the update and I started with a run, but the GPS signal was low, mobile phone did complain about it(some clouds on the sky). Even that the s9 had a better signal than the phone which was not registering GPS at all, only time for more than 1 km.

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            the track was ok in general.

            then I did some biking and the track was looking pretty good:
            d3ecefe6-365d-48fe-ab96-c55e3e3956ab-image.png

            I traveled to Innsbruck and did some hiking and running.
            Hiking was bad:
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            running was good as can be:
            33a6faca-360d-4c54-9dd5-b3f8425e7d9c-image.png

            Now i’m back home and I will continue with another reply.

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              florin2528 Bronze Member @florin2528
              last edited by 10 Jul 2019, 17:52

              @florin2528 said in Suunto 9 baro - GPS track not accurate:

              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

              Now i got back home and did biking:
              the track was looking more better than when running:
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              but running was ok, but not so accurate, i’m happy with it:
              ec9d664b-4e9a-4c9b-924a-97a3692fe90a-image.png

              In general i think that from GPS point of view it’s fine.

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                florin2528 Bronze Member
                last edited by 10 Jul 2019, 18:01

                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                But i noticed some issues with barometer sensor.
                I did some diving, maximum one meter deep and the baro indicator was showing me -75, -50.
                I don’t have the log from that. I was just viewing on the watch with no activity recorded.
                Being in the see, in the water was still showing me like 12 meters above sea level with GPS active.

                another issue I notice it\s with WHR, sometimes it starts really slow, and sometimes drops with no reason:
                3fd616fa-7a99-4745-84ce-11f7f7f4699a-image.png
                altitude in orange, HR in white.

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                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @florin2528
                  last edited by 10 Jul 2019, 18:02

                  @florin2528 it won’t work with water. 🙂

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                    florin2528 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                    last edited by florin2528 7 Oct 2019, 18:10 10 Jul 2019, 18:05

                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                    good to know.
                    but being at the sea level it was still showing 12m above?

                    D 1 Reply Last reply 10 Jul 2019, 18:39 Reply Quote 1
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                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @florin2528
                      last edited by 10 Jul 2019, 18:39

                      @florin2528 hmmm. That depends. Sea level is very hard to match from GPS altitude calibration. Its too many multipath errors (Google this term).

                      In general 12m above sea (1m in reality) might sound much for an error but its not absolute (you see the relative error).

                      For example if you were at some peak of 1700m and you had 1712 it looks less of an error right? Well its really the same.

                      To me the device looks good.

                      What I wonder is how it will perform if you use Galileo.

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                        florin2528 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                        last edited by florin2528 7 Oct 2019, 19:18 10 Jul 2019, 18:47

                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                        changed the setting, i will let you know on my next run.

                        can i ask other questions/issues related to watch app? if not please ignore

                        do I have the possibility to see the smart sensor battery status on the watch(S9)? can i get notifications when battery is getting low?

                        any updates regarding a shortcut for connectivity on/off?

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                          florin2528 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                          last edited by 15 Jul 2019, 06:35

                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                          What I wonder is how it will perform if you use Galileo.

                          I tried a run with galileo enabled and the track was not great, GPS signal was green but i was running with a big hill on side.
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                          this was exactly the same path on a track(1 m wide).
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                          Here on the end of track was really open, and I was always doing a round at the end of track on each sides.
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                          Not good at all but i didn’t start my phone to register in the same time to compare.

                          I had enough with this. I didn’t returned, so i will have to stick with what i get from this S9.

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                            johann.fuehrer Bronze Member
                            last edited by johann.fuehrer 15 Jul 2019, 06:48

                            Galileo GPS Service is down since 12.7. On ALL satellites, maybe this is the reason…

                            https://www.gsc-europa.eu/system-status/Constellation-Information

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                              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                              last edited by 15 Jul 2019, 07:22

                              yeah the timing was not ok 😞

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                                florin2528 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                last edited by 15 Jul 2019, 18:41

                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                                To be honest i made a mistake by keeping this watch.
                                a run on a sunny day:
                                Screenshot_20190715-212950_Suunto.jpg

                                If you don’t fix your issues people will move to garmin.

                                The heart rate avg is shown 116 on image but on the running details is shown 161.

                                this is not professional, looks like a startup app.

                                very disappointed…
                                Florin

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                                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @florin2528
                                  last edited by 15 Jul 2019, 18:43

                                  @florin2528 Hi florin I am sad for this and I am not sure what to say, as that is not my experience. I can help with a refund perhaps so in this case PM me.

                                  The HR btw its not the AVG its the one at the start you can move the finger on the chart and its changes to the one on the map etc.

                                  🙂

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                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @florin2528
                                    last edited by 15 Jul 2019, 18:43

                                    @florin2528 Also Galileo Satellites are down at. Just saying

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                                      florin2528 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                      last edited by 15 Jul 2019, 19:12

                                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos The HR btw its not the AVG its the one at the start you can move the finger on the chart and its changes to the one on the map etc.

                                      My bad.

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                                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @florin2528
                                        last edited by 15 Jul 2019, 19:22

                                        @florin2528 no worries 🙂

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                                          florin2528 Bronze Member
                                          last edited by florin2528 15 Jul 2019, 19:50

                                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 baro - GPS track not accurate:

                                          I can help with a refund perhaps so in this case PM me.

                                          I would prefer that Suunto to solve this issues and i see here a product management issue.

                                          • Suunto implemented performance mode, but all corners are cut. what is the customer winning?
                                            this? I was doing a nice turning with a round at the end.
                                            df09e557-9a80-4c35-a4e8-435dd407edf3-image.png

                                          I had in 2004(and still working) a Forerunner 101, and I used for paragliding, and doing thermals i was doing circles with a diameter of 20-30 m and was visible on the track afterwards, Landing and take off was very accurate. It was seeing maximum 12 satellites and showing the level of signal for each of it. GPS accuracy <15 meters.

                                          Now if i’m doing a round with S9 it’s not visible at all with 1s performance. 😞
                                          And yes, i was expecting a better performance than 15 years ago.

                                          you have to rethink the product.

                                          Kind Regards,
                                          Florin

                                          P.S.

                                          snapshot of a track friend with Ambit2:
                                          d7992375-db61-40ec-9f7c-3e02819946d8-image.png

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