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S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move

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    Saketo Nemo Moderator
    last edited by 14 Jun 2019, 13:07

    trying to reset all settings from suuntolink?

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      Shrek3k @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
      last edited by Shrek3k 14 Jun 2019, 13:07

      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos me neither (At least not with Suunto … but very often with Garmin), especially frustrating that my wifes Ambit 3 is so much faster and exact, when synced at the same time and even used during the same activity (running together)

      using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
      OS - Android 15/Pixel Pro 7

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        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Shrek3k
        last edited by 14 Jun 2019, 13:08

        @Shrek3k is that after a soft reset? Because after a reset of the watch (12s upper button) it will take longer…

        Perhaps your watch softresets it self?

        You can chec kthat via the pressure chart if it has gaps.

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          Shrek3k @Saketo Nemo
          last edited by 14 Jun 2019, 13:09

          @Saketo-Nemo no, as I usually sync with SA during workdays (I am a weekly commuter without PC during the week), might check in the next days when there are no changes …

          using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
          OS - Android 15/Pixel Pro 7

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            Shrek3k @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
            last edited by 14 Jun 2019, 13:11

            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos where can I find the pressure chart? 😳

            using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
            OS - Android 15/Pixel Pro 7

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              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Shrek3k
              last edited by 14 Jun 2019, 13:12

              @Shrek3k altitude card -> go right

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                Shrek3k
                last edited by 14 Jun 2019, 13:16

                😔 seems that I can’t offer / use that chart as I have the “simple version” (aka non-baro).

                using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
                OS - Android 15/Pixel Pro 7

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                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Shrek3k
                  last edited by 14 Jun 2019, 13:21

                  @Shrek3k check 24/7 hr

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                    Shrek3k @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                    last edited by 14 Jun 2019, 15:24

                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I am really grateful for your assistance, and I hope that I understand you correctly … as I am not using the any of the 24h-capabilities (sleep / HR) as I have no need at all for any of them (add to this opion, that these data could/would be collected but not interpreted in a meaningful way as far as I understand), so I might not be able to check there either if there are any ‘automatic’ resets 😔

                    using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
                    OS - Android 15/Pixel Pro 7

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                      MaxiPalle Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                      last edited by 16 Jun 2019, 09:54

                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Checked it and it was appr. 3 weeks old.
                      Did a soft reset and voila - GPS optimization started during next sync.

                      Thanks!

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                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @MaxiPalle
                        last edited by 16 Jun 2019, 12:34

                        @MaxiPalle That should solve the problem. My S9baro acquires a fix in about 5 sec.

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                          Shrek3k
                          last edited by 16 Jun 2019, 21:12

                          Today, synced with SA, checked the GPS-file, left the car, had a GPS-fix in the small parking lot (the usual open terrain with low trees around, no buildings, no hills) in approx 60 seconds … better than usual … for me and my S9 … (last GPS fix before on Friday less than 20km away … same procedure, much bigger parking lot, approx 60 seconds, too)

                          using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
                          OS - Android 15/Pixel Pro 7

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                            sartoric Moderator @Shrek3k
                            last edited by sartoric 16 Jun 2019, 21:22

                            @Shrek3k
                            Out of curiosity, have you tried to check visible satellites using the mobile ?
                            Just to check the “sky” quality. Maybe there are only few satellites visible

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                              Shrek3k @sartoric
                              last edited by 16 Jun 2019, 21:38

                              @sartoric excellent idea, I will (re)install an app capable of doing that. Might need a few days for a proper test, as my next run(s) will be in the centre of Brussels, and there is no way, that I will blame a slow satellite pick-up on the watch under that circumstances … but / and Imight use Glonass for the first time ever …

                              using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
                              OS - Android 15/Pixel Pro 7

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                                John van Winkel Bronze Member @Shrek3k
                                last edited by 16 Jun 2019, 22:05

                                @Shrek3k hi. I’m also belgian. Never had any trouble with gps fix on my spartan trainer. Always a fix straight out the front door in a second. Couple of weeks ran in meerdaalwoud near bruxels in a dens forrest. No problems what so ever.

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                                  A Former User
                                  last edited by 17 Jun 2019, 02:52

                                  This has been a problem for me too since end of April. It looks like A-GPS data (satellite almanac) update is no longer updating reliably, at least when syncing to Movescount. A soft reset fixes that temporarily, but after a week or two the problem repeats. Currently AGPS date on my watch is 2019-06-06.

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                                    Shrek3k @Guest
                                    last edited by 17 Jun 2019, 09:47

                                    @silentvoyager this sounds really very similar to my issue … I am somehow “feeling” (how to really prove this feeling? No clue) that the A-GPS in the (= my) Suunto 9 currently might not be used in the way it should be used - and has been used before.
                                    And as I am using SA (weekdays and weekends) and MC (weekend)I can’t narrow down the possibilities if and/or which part possibly corrupts or limits the A-GPS … if this is the case at all …

                                    using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
                                    OS - Android 15/Pixel Pro 7

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                                      cosme.costa @Guest
                                      last edited by cosme.costa 17 Jun 2019, 12:06

                                      @silentvoyager said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                                      This has been a problem for me too since end of April. It looks like A-GPS data (satellite almanac) update is no longer updating reliably, at least when syncing to Movescount. A soft reset fixes that temporarily, but after a week or two the problem repeats. Currently AGPS date on my watch is 2019-06-06.

                                      I have an SSU as per right know my AGPS is dated on 2019-06-17 and on Friday it was 2019-06-14, so you AGPS is out of date. Something is wrong and is not updating your AGPS.

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                                        A Former User @cosme.costa
                                        last edited by 17 Jun 2019, 12:26

                                        @cosmecosta said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                                        @silentvoyager said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                                        This has been a problem for me too since end of April. It looks like A-GPS data (satellite almanac) update is no longer updating reliably, at least when syncing to Movescount. A soft reset fixes that temporarily, but after a week or two the problem repeats. Currently AGPS date on my watch is 2019-06-06.

                                        I have an SSU as per right know my AGPS is dated on 2019-06-17 and on Friday it was 2019-06-14, so you AGPS is out of date. Something is wrong and is not updating your AGPS.

                                        That’s what I am saying. But nothing has changed on my side. I didn’t change anything about how I sync my watch. It used to work reliably since August 2018 when I bought my Suunto 9 until it stopped around April 2019.

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                                          cosme.costa @Guest
                                          last edited by 17 Jun 2019, 12:47

                                          @silentvoyager said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                                          @cosmecosta said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                                          @silentvoyager said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                                          This has been a problem for me too since end of April. It looks like A-GPS data (satellite almanac) update is no longer updating reliably, at least when syncing to Movescount. A soft reset fixes that temporarily, but after a week or two the problem repeats. Currently AGPS date on my watch is 2019-06-06.

                                          I have an SSU as per right know my AGPS is dated on 2019-06-17 and on Friday it was 2019-06-14, so you AGPS is out of date. Something is wrong and is not updating your AGPS.

                                          That’s what I am saying. But nothing has changed on my side. I didn’t change anything about how I sync my watch. It used to work reliably since August 2018 when I bought my Suunto 9 until it stopped around April 2019.

                                          In my opinion, it is some software glitch. I would do a sync with the SA, and see if the AGPS is updated, could be some problem from Suunto side. If the AGPS is not updated it could be due the SA app or some corruption in the Watch firmware. I would start with the SA app (clearing cache, or uninstall/install) if this doesn’t work then I would reinstall the watch firmware.

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