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    • cosme.costaC Offline
      cosme.costa @Guest
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      @silentvoyager said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

      This has been a problem for me too since end of April. It looks like A-GPS data (satellite almanac) update is no longer updating reliably, at least when syncing to Movescount. A soft reset fixes that temporarily, but after a week or two the problem repeats. Currently AGPS date on my watch is 2019-06-06.

      I have an SSU as per right know my AGPS is dated on 2019-06-17 and on Friday it was 2019-06-14, so you AGPS is out of date. Something is wrong and is not updating your AGPS.

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        @cosmecosta said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

        @silentvoyager said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

        This has been a problem for me too since end of April. It looks like A-GPS data (satellite almanac) update is no longer updating reliably, at least when syncing to Movescount. A soft reset fixes that temporarily, but after a week or two the problem repeats. Currently AGPS date on my watch is 2019-06-06.

        I have an SSU as per right know my AGPS is dated on 2019-06-17 and on Friday it was 2019-06-14, so you AGPS is out of date. Something is wrong and is not updating your AGPS.

        That’s what I am saying. But nothing has changed on my side. I didn’t change anything about how I sync my watch. It used to work reliably since August 2018 when I bought my Suunto 9 until it stopped around April 2019.

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          cosme.costa @Guest
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          @silentvoyager said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

          @cosmecosta said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

          @silentvoyager said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

          This has been a problem for me too since end of April. It looks like A-GPS data (satellite almanac) update is no longer updating reliably, at least when syncing to Movescount. A soft reset fixes that temporarily, but after a week or two the problem repeats. Currently AGPS date on my watch is 2019-06-06.

          I have an SSU as per right know my AGPS is dated on 2019-06-17 and on Friday it was 2019-06-14, so you AGPS is out of date. Something is wrong and is not updating your AGPS.

          That’s what I am saying. But nothing has changed on my side. I didn’t change anything about how I sync my watch. It used to work reliably since August 2018 when I bought my Suunto 9 until it stopped around April 2019.

          In my opinion, it is some software glitch. I would do a sync with the SA, and see if the AGPS is updated, could be some problem from Suunto side. If the AGPS is not updated it could be due the SA app or some corruption in the Watch firmware. I would start with the SA app (clearing cache, or uninstall/install) if this doesn’t work then I would reinstall the watch firmware.

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          • Brad_OlwinB Offline
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            I have had my cache in SA corrupted and had to reinstall the app. My AGPS updates are more reliable with SA than the MC app as well. Since I use both that might be an issue.

            Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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              stokje Bronze Member
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              I have this problem too for a few weeks.
              Looked at the GPS date, it was old, did soft reset, GPS date ok now,
              still having problems. Finding GPS takes minutes.
              Nothing chaged on the watch. Using suuntolink with 9,
              no intentions using SA

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              • zvonejanZ Offline
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                Uaau, I thought I was the only one. I did soft reset, hard reset. AGPS date is ok. I have this problem for 2 weeks. Disconnect from moveslink, connected to SA and problem is still there. 3-5 minutes is needed or even more to find satellites. Recently I lost reception on the road for 3 minutes, breadcrumbs just disspapeared. I never had this problem with Spartan. And yes, I have this problem for about 2-3 weeks

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                  Shrek3k @zvonejan
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                  @zvonejan Sounds similar to my issue, once more.

                  BTW - using the GPS-GLONASS combination even in a mostly rather heavily built up area (Brussels, downtown) has been really disappointing - really not so good track.

                  using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
                  OS - Android 15/Pixel Pro 7

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                  • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
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                    Hey new FW is out. Lets test that! (in terms of time etc)

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                      Shrek3k
                      last edited by Shrek3k

                      Looking forward to the update … this friday 😭
                      … until then reading the comments rather enviously.

                      using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
                      OS - Android 15/Pixel Pro 7

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                        Mff73 @Shrek3k
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                        @Shrek3k
                        FW zip files for manual upgrade are available in the 2.8.24 😉

                        Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                        Suunto Vertical all black
                        Wife : S9PP
                        SA: Always the latest beta :)
                        Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                          Shrek3k @Mff73
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                          @Mff73 said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                          @Shrek3k
                          FW zip files for manual upgrade are available in the 2.8.24 😉

                          Thanks … but I have no access to PC/notebook during the week (of course in the office, but …), as I do not need it / have no time to use it … the smartphone with DEX is more than good enough for me… usually … of course not this week 😋

                          using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
                          OS - Android 15/Pixel Pro 7

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                            stokje Bronze Member
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                            Hi all,
                            still having problems with the GPS after update to the latest firmware.
                            baro 9 en MA.
                            This was never an issue, but the last months I’m struggling…

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                            • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                              Brad_Olwin Moderator @stokje
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                              @stokje Check the AGPS file, if it is current then I am not clear why this is happening and it could be a hardware issue. Mine has found GPS very quickly, within seconds unless the AGPS file is missing, which can happen.

                              Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                stokje Bronze Member
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                                @Brad_Olwin
                                The AGPS file is old, a few days ago…
                                When I soft reset, the file will update to a resent date, but
                                then again the watch refuses to update this file.
                                and so on…

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                                • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @stokje
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                                  @stokje said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                                  @Brad_Olwin
                                  The AGPS file is old, a few days ago…
                                  When I soft reset, the file will update to a resent date, but
                                  then again the watch refuses to update this file.
                                  and so on…

                                  So there is a problem with how you are updating it. Suuntolink, Movescount or SA?

                                  Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                  • Fatih KaleF Offline
                                    Fatih Kale
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                                    I had a similar problem today. At the beginning of run watch was on performance mode and no issues it found gps in seconds but when I climbed a uphill which was not covered by any trees or any building etc. It lost the gps and I had to wait for 10 20 minutes to find it back. I can’t understand how it happens. I had to stop the activity, start a new one etc. It was frustrating. Second time it found the GPS there was no issue until end of the run.

                                    BTW any recommendation when to use GLONASS or GALILEO?

                                    Suunto 9 Baro

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                                      stokje Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
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                                      @Brad_Olwin

                                      I use suuntolink with movescount, I’m a long time Suunto user, this never was an issue before…
                                      No intention to use SA until forced:)

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                                      • ? Offline
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                                        This issue keeps plaguing my Suunto 9. From time to time it just stops updating AGPS, and the time it takes to find satellites starts to increasingly get worse. Then at some point I reboot the watch by pressing the upper button for 12 second and re-sync, and it gets the new AGPS, and everything is fine for a week or so. Then everything repeats again. That isn’t what I’d call a good experience.

                                        Is Suunto doing anything about this?

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                                        • Jessica MonkJ Offline
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                                          @silentvoyager said in S9 Baro takes very long to find GPS signal before a move:

                                          This issue keeps plaguing my Suunto 9. From time to time it just stops updating AGPS, and the time it takes to find satellites starts to increasingly get worse. Then at some point I reboot the watch by pressing the upper button for 12 second and re-sync, and it gets the new AGPS, and everything is fine for a week or so.

                                          I am experiencing this as well. For me at least, seems to be only recently (past 2 weeks or so). Prior to that I would get GPS consistently within 5 seconds, even while I was indoors.

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                                          • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                            Brad_Olwin Moderator
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                                            I am not experiencing this and I am typically syncing an S9 baro with MC app. I will check on this and keep updating all of you.

                                            Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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