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    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @runnr_az
    last edited by 13 Sept 2020, 09:57

    @runnr_az said in Syncing problems Ambit3 with iPhone11:

    No luck getting this to pair with the beta… nor could I export the workout from the debug menu. It eventually throws a “Failure: Archive or data fetch failed unknownError” message. It does seem to recognize there are three workouts there…

    When I just try and sync from debug, I get a “Header Parsing Failure”

    Thank you

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      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @lkovari
      last edited by 13 Sept 2020, 10:01

      @lkovari you cannot pair the watch ?

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        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @runnr_az
        last edited by 13 Sept 2020, 10:01

        @runnr_az just to get this right. Did you manage to pair the watch ?

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          runnr_az @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by 13 Sept 2020, 20:04

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos yeah… the watch has always paired with my iPhone 11, it always seems to begin sync, but can’t seem to close the deal.

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            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
            last edited by 15 Sept 2020, 17:35

            Hey guys I need your feedback if we need to get this fixed.

            @runnr_az I you have a pm 😄

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              Fermin Lopez Unzu
              last edited by 16 Sept 2020, 21:58

              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos has anyone tried iOS 14?

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                pcarval @Fermin Lopez Unzu
                last edited by 18 Sept 2020, 05:32

                @Fermin-Lopez-Unzu @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I tried yesterday with Iphone 11 - IOS 14 same problem !

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                  pcarval
                  last edited by pcarval 18 Sept 2020, 05:34

                  @pcarval said in Syncing problems Ambit3 with iPhone11:

                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                  I also reset everything (unpair watch, delete from bluetooth…) and then restart from beginning.
                  Pairing the watch is still working … good news ! but after even the GPS Optimization failed ! Iforgot to add that I have also downloaded the latest Sunnto App. The real question is when you will admit that no one in Sunnto cares about managing this situation. I am wondering if it worths to continue to follow-up this subject on this forum. May be communicating on social Media & networks and explaining that a Sync problem openned in Sept. 2019 is still not solve, we help all people thinking about Suunto will reconsider their choice !

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                    isazi Moderator @pcarval
                    last edited by 18 Sept 2020, 08:54

                    @pcarval said in Syncing problems Ambit3 with iPhone11:

                    @pcarval said in Syncing problems Ambit3 with iPhone11:

                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                    I also reset everything (unpair watch, delete from bluetooth…) and then restart from beginning.
                    Pairing the watch is still working … good news ! but after even the GPS Optimization failed ! Iforgot to add that I have also downloaded the latest Sunnto App. The real question is when you will admit that no one in Sunnto cares about managing this situation. I am wondering if it worths to continue to follow-up this subject on this forum. May be communicating on social Media & networks and explaining that a Sync problem openned in Sept. 2019 is still not solve, we help all people thinking about Suunto will reconsider their choice !

                    Wow, someone that works for Suunto is trying to help you, and your answer is a veiled menace to social media blackmailing. Kudos to you sir.

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                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @pcarval
                      last edited by 18 Sept 2020, 09:47

                      @pcarval hi.

                      as you can see I am helping here, and we have already a candidate for the issue.

                      @runnr_az has sent us his watch for investigation and we thank him for that.

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                        Fermin Lopez Unzu @isazi
                        last edited by Fermin Lopez Unzu 18 Sept 2020, 13:45

                        @isazi I do not know what is your role in this suunto based forum. I totaly understand what @pcarval said as i am suffering the same situation for almost a year now. If i were working for suunto i would not dare to argue with an angry customer which is right. I was promised by suunto that i would be able to upload my activities using an app, and when they discontinued the movescount app we thought that the new suunto app would do the job, and it does not and no one is doing anything serious in the company. Otherwise they would have come with a solution long time ago.
                        The only thing we have had is a “solution based in using a beta version of an app, tapping seven times somewhere in the phone, and entering in “debug” mode to do something I do not understand” every time I need to syncronize. By the way some people already said it does not work, and you say this is acandidate to solve the problem ?. I hope there is a better solution.

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                          isazi Moderator @Fermin Lopez Unzu
                          last edited by 18 Sept 2020, 14:11

                          @Fermin-Lopez-Unzu said in Syncing problems Ambit3 with iPhone11:

                          The only thing we have had is a “solution based in using a beta version of an app, tapping seven times somewhere in the phone, and entering in “debug” mode to do something I do not understand” every time I need to syncronize. By the way some people already said it does not work, and you say this is acandidate to solve the problem ?. I hope there is a better solution.

                          This is not “the solution” ™, it is a way in which Suunto programmers are debugging the issue and looking for a solution that can be rolled into production and finally solve the issue.

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                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Fermin Lopez Unzu
                            last edited by 18 Sept 2020, 15:41

                            @Fermin-Lopez-Unzu said in Syncing problems Ambit3 with iPhone11:

                            The only thing we have had is a “solution based in using a beta version of an app, tapping seven times somewhere in the phone, and entering in “debug” mode to do something I do not understand” every time I need to syncronize. By the way some people already said it does not work, and you say this is acandidate to solve the problem ?.

                            I asked this personally and here its a community forum and not support. Even as a Suunto employee that I became recently (sept) this is not my work here.

                            @isazi is a moderator voted by the community in the previous call for moderators.

                            Regarding to what I asked from all the people here, only one person answered and his watch, is now on it’s way to investigate what is going to cut a long story short.

                            Now, while I do understand your position and frustration, I would like to gently remind you once again that this is a community forum.

                            If i were working for suunto i would not dare to argue with an angry customer which is right.

                            That doesn’t belong to @isazi nor here please.

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                              Fermin Lopez Unzu @Fermin Lopez Unzu
                              last edited by Fermin Lopez Unzu 18 Sept 2020, 20:14

                              …

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                                benoitg Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                last edited by 21 Sept 2020, 02:50

                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos thanks again for your help!
                                But it’s true that’s for an issue a year old it’s a bit weird that Suunto had to wait for an user to send their own Suunto watch to debug this 🙂
                                And anyway a year long issue that is blocking something like activities sync is really sad… again I completely understand that this could be tricky to fix and that Suunto wants to concentrate development effort on new features for new watches and Suunto app, not spend time on compatibility issue with older hardware.
                                But some communication around that would have been nice, like we have now, so there’s hope!

                                With iOS 14 update I couldn’t get activities to sync anymore 😞
                                I’ll wipe the watch clean (I had long activities trying to sync) and retry.

                                (I also tried on an iPhone 7 with iOS 14 but I couldn’t get pairing to work :s.)

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                                  A Former User
                                  last edited by 21 Sept 2020, 10:52

                                  I’ve upgraded my 1st gen SE to iOS 14.0 and my Suunto app is on version 1.60.0 (8364) and bluetooth connection seems pretty stable so far. I’ve been on a break so no activity recorded to try syncing, but will begin a new training session from tomorrow, then will check that too. GPS optimization and notification delivery are so far spot on. Before the upgrade on iOS 13.7 sync worked for me without any hiccups with the latest Suunto app, the only problem I had occasionally lost connection with the watch and I needed to turn off/on BT from the phone. Interestingly notification went through even when Suunto app showed not connected.

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                                    Juho Leskelä
                                    last edited by 23 Sept 2020, 15:34

                                    The same situation here, Ambit3 Sport won’t work with iPhone 11 Pro when I changed the phone.

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                                      ace575
                                      last edited by 26 Sept 2020, 02:44

                                      +1 this is completely broken. Rather than patronizing and fleecing the community (they recently dropped the price enticing new customers to buy a broken product), it would be better to make progress here and retain loyalty.

                                      This is likely a Bluetooth issue. Based on past experience with iOS phones and cars (Bluetooth connectivity), Apple tends to update HW/SW to better align with the Bluetooth spec, breaking early implementations (not uncommon in the connectivity and router space).

                                      How about you a) acknowledge the problem - a brand new Ambit3 watch does not pair well with latest iOS phones, even after resets, unpairing, firmware syncs (both apps), phone reboots, etc, etc, etc. And b) will not sync with the app. We know this is a Bluetooth spec issue since iPad works fine. Fix your software per specs and stop giving customers the runaround for years and enticing new business to procure broken product.

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                                        benoitg Bronze Member @ace575
                                        last edited by 29 Sept 2020, 18:30

                                        @ace575 I think @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos understood and acknowledged this issue: clearly a Bluetooth connection issue between newer iPhone / iOS and the Ambit3.
                                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos does Suunto have like a bug tracking platform where we can check progress on this issue ?
                                        And yes the fact that the watch is still on sale on the Suunto website without any disclaimer clearly bothers me a little 🙂
                                        With the latest Suunto app beta version : pairing works on iPhone SE 2020 and iPhone 7.
                                        But I could not get activities to sync on either phone. Could not export raw files from the debug menu though like you asked @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos it just fails continuously 😞

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                                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @benoitg
                                          last edited by 30 Sept 2020, 08:06

                                          @benoitg hi with what message does it fail. If you reached that point please PM me and I can help communicating this and getting this solved with Suunto. Please send me a pm here or at ext_dimitrios.kanellopoulos@suunto.com

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