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Problème cumul dénivelé positif sur une course

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    Mi_chael Bronze Member
    last edited by 20 Oct 2019, 19:36

    Quelle montre as tu?

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      PatBess @Mi_chael
      last edited by 20 Oct 2019, 19:39

      @Mi_chael S9 Baro

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        Mi_chael Bronze Member
        last edited by 20 Oct 2019, 19:42

        Tu l’as porte au poignet droit ou gauche?
        Avais tu une veste? Était elle en dessous ou au dessus.

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          PatBess @Mi_chael
          last edited by 20 Oct 2019, 19:48

          @Mi_chael Poignet gauche et non, pas de veste au dessus, mais ma manchette descendue contre des fois… Ce serait l’explication ?

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            Mi_chael Bronze Member
            last edited by 20 Oct 2019, 19:52

            J’ai déjà rencontré des erreurs de dénivelé lorsque les trous du capteur barométrique sont obstrués par intermittences. Pluie, sueur, vêtement…

            Est-ce que ton altitude de départ ainsi que ton altitude Max correspondent à la réalité?

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              PatBess @Mi_chael
              last edited by 20 Oct 2019, 19:54

              @Mi_chael Ça je n’ai pas vérifié. Je vais regarder.

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                freeheeler @Mi_chael
                last edited by 20 Oct 2019, 19:57

                @Mi_chael
                did you notice that with s9b, too?
                I only observed this with suunto core.
                isn’t fusedalti filtering or correcting it?

                living sideways

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                  PatBess @freeheeler
                  last edited by 20 Oct 2019, 20:10

                  @TELE-HO How can I know about fusedalti ?

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                    Mi_chael Bronze Member
                    last edited by 20 Oct 2019, 20:22

                    Fusedalti corrige l’altitude dans les 10min environ après le début d’un Moves.
                    Néanmoins il te faut une bonne couverture gps.
                    Il me semble que ça te créer un décrochage sur la courbe de vitesse verticale lors de l’ajustement.

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                      freeheeler @Mi_chael
                      last edited by 20 Oct 2019, 20:28

                      @Mi_chael
                      I’m so glad we have Google translate 😉
                      it would be helpful to see the alti graph… if this run is mostly flat the difference between the watch and the “correct” total ascent could be because of the famouse 3meters “issue”

                      living sideways

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                        A Former User @freeheeler
                        last edited by A Former User 20 Oct 2019, 21:17

                        @TELE-HO said in Problème cumul dénivelé positif sur une course:

                        if this run is mostly flat the difference between the watch and the “correct” total ascent could be because of the famouse 3meters “issue”

                        How can it be mostly flat if the gain is more than 5 km in in 100 km? That means the average grade is about 10% (assuming a similar amount of elevation loss).

                        And yes, even if all the climbs and descents are larger than 3 meters, Suunto 9 still counts less ascent than actual. I posted about this issue in details in the past.

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                          freeheeler @Guest
                          last edited by 20 Oct 2019, 21:22

                          @silentvoyager
                          sorry, I did not want to say most of the trail is flat… I imagined if a long enough distance is small ups and downs, not entire trail.
                          you’re right, we’ve had this topic couple of times.
                          I understand that finding the answers is not easy even with a good search function

                          living sideways

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                            PatBess @Guest
                            last edited by 20 Oct 2019, 21:24

                            @silentvoyager You’re right, it wasn’t flat !!
                            So it’s a problem with the watch ? A difference of 1000 meters is a big problem on that race !!

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                              freeheeler @PatBess
                              last edited by 20 Oct 2019, 21:33

                              @PatBess
                              did you compare your alti graph with the original already?
                              I just looked it up and saw that your screenshots are similar to the original graph (don’t get me wrong, for sure it’s not flat) but it might be something in the detail…
                              the original graph shows tonns of small spikes

                              living sideways

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                                freeheeler
                                last edited by 20 Oct 2019, 21:36

                                spikes example…
                                I’m interested in that because I went on the same trail last week with 2 different total ascent results
                                Screenshot_20191020-233421.png

                                living sideways

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                                  PatBess @freeheeler
                                  last edited by 20 Oct 2019, 21:48

                                  @TELE-HO Yes there was a lot of small spikes ! I don’t know how to have more details with the file my S9Baro recorded…
                                  Maybe the software of the watch is sort of “flattening” the smaller pikes, which could explain the elevation difference ?

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                                    freeheeler @PatBess
                                    last edited by 20 Oct 2019, 21:58

                                    @PatBess
                                    that’s what I also like to know…
                                    first pic is with total ascent of 240m.
                                    second pic is with total ascent of 286m. exactly the same trail but the 2nd day with some “noise” in the recording. I assume day 1 was right and day 2 with the noises, something went wrong. it your case it must be vice versa…

                                    Screenshot_20191020-235412.png Screenshot_20191020-235445.png

                                    living sideways

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                                      77alex77 Bronze Member
                                      last edited by 21 Oct 2019, 04:38

                                      Hello,

                                      I ran the Marathon des Causses, Festival des templiers, Millau on Saturday : 37 km and 1780m ascent. My S9 baro recorded 36.5 km and 1658m ascent, an error about of 100m. I syncronized AGPS the morning before the race. One day before I recalibrated the compass and requested an automatique adjustment for altitude.

                                      (Félicitations PatBess pour ta course)

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                                        PatBess
                                        last edited by 21 Oct 2019, 06:54

                                        « Flattening » 3280 feet is quite a big issue for me !
                                        I’m very disappointed !

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