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Serious update for Ambit3 users

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    thailon Bronze Member
    last edited by 28 Oct 2019, 21:07

    Hello,

    Is there any serious update for Ambit3 users according to SuuntoApp? It has been really long time of silence, this is really, definitely not serious relationship with customers. Even for those really loyal ones.

    Thanks.


    T3c, Quest, Ambit3 Peak, 9PP, Vertical

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      thailon Bronze Member
      last edited by 4 Nov 2019, 17:28

      Update 4.12.6 - nothing new for Ambit3 owners, except notification selection & 2 tooltips (recovery time, PTE)
      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos is there any SERIOUS status update for Ambit3 users? Thanks!


      T3c, Quest, Ambit3 Peak, 9PP, Vertical

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        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
        last edited by 4 Nov 2019, 17:32

        I dont know my friend @thailon unfortunately

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          thailon Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by 4 Nov 2019, 17:34

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos ok. Who can give us company’s update? We are waiting almost 1 year and nothing new for Ambit3 users.Nothing, no communication, no information from company.


          T3c, Quest, Ambit3 Peak, 9PP, Vertical

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            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @thailon
            last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos 11 Apr 2019, 17:40 4 Nov 2019, 17:40

            @thailon Despite a very good question, that I dont know to answer, the only thing I know is that there will be some announcement this week.

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              thailon Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
              last edited by 4 Nov 2019, 17:41

              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos ok, thank you for quick reply.


              T3c, Quest, Ambit3 Peak, 9PP, Vertical

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                A Former User
                last edited by 4 Nov 2019, 19:40

                I don’t understand all the rush…
                “we will begin removing the Movescount App from the iOS AppStore and Google PlayStore by the end of 2019. Existing consumers can continue to use the app as long as it is still installed on their smartphone. We don’t have a specific closing date currently, but we wanted to give everyone plenty of notice before the change, and we will share more in our updates as we go forward.”

                Probably movescount app will work till the end of Movescount which is planned to be in Summer 2020, so why just not using movescount app and having a full feature experience till summer of 2020?

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                  Janfi @Guest
                  last edited by 4 Nov 2019, 20:21

                  @André-Faria You are right, but for my part SA solves the buggy behavior of the MC App, and it’s a very strong motivation

                  With MC App :

                  • many retries are needed to sync one move (intialize sync, syncing, watch disconnected (??), back, another sync initialization, syncing, OH my move is synced (or not and another turn is needed)
                  • needs to be very patient, one move needs many minutes…

                  With SA :

                  • not any bug ATM with the sync process which is reliable
                  • syncing is very fast, lightning fast than with MC App

                  SA Bonus :

                  • clean and modern UI (MC App seems outdated)
                  • more informations about each move, graphs & co

                  Suunto Ambit 3 Peak / Redmi Note 5 / MC App & SA

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                    freeheeler @Janfi
                    last edited by 4 Nov 2019, 20:34

                    @Janfi said in Serious update for Ambit3 users:

                    more informations about each move, graphs & co

                    SA vs MC app, yes… vs MC web, no…

                    living sideways

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                      Janfi @freeheeler
                      last edited by 4 Nov 2019, 21:03

                      @TELE-HO Totally agree : SA with full support (structured workouts / routes) + actual MC Web rebranded as New Suunto Web platform = killer combo !

                      Suunto Ambit 3 Peak / Redmi Note 5 / MC App & SA

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                        Saketo Nemo Moderator
                        last edited by 5 Nov 2019, 08:36

                        https://www.suunto.com/en-us/Content-pages/digital-service-transition/?platform=hootsuite

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                          freeheeler @Saketo Nemo
                          last edited by 5 Nov 2019, 08:39

                          @Saketo-Nemo
                          mainly good news 👍

                          living sideways

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                            freeheeler @Saketo Nemo
                            last edited by 5 Nov 2019, 08:44

                            @Saketo-Nemo
                            but what’s not clearly stated here is: will movescount webservice (the new renamed one) be compatible with SA and S9ers? My assumption would be yes as there will only be SuuntoLink and this should serve all watches in my understanding.

                            living sideways

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                              amasidlover Bronze Member
                              last edited by 5 Nov 2019, 08:54

                              So it looks like good news unless you use structured workouts on Ambit3 (which I do a couple of times a week), in which case you lose the ability to create / change them at some point not far after December 18th. Or unless you use the Movescount web facilities for analysing training, in which case you lose those next summer.

                              Given that Suunto have explicitly stated they won’t add structured interval creation to SuuntoApp, the only possibility is if they’re going to add import of workouts from 3rd Party Services e.g. TrainingPeaks.

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                                freeheeler @amasidlover
                                last edited by 5 Nov 2019, 08:58

                                @amasidlover
                                what I understand they keep key functions from MC for Ambit/Traverse, for me this includes structured workouts.
                                But this will not come to S-line. Maybe this will be done with “new benefits from partner ecosystems”?

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                                living sideways

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                                  amasidlover Bronze Member @freeheeler
                                  last edited by amasidlover 11 May 2019, 09:02 5 Nov 2019, 09:02

                                  @TELE-HO I’m looking specifically at this: “enable key functionality (including watch settings, routes and sport mode customization) for Ambit (1, 2 and 3)” - I suppose it could be read as they might keep structured workouts, but firstly, they don’t explicitly say that and secondly, to do so they’d have to write a whole new web based structured workout creator. I’m struggling to see them writing a whole new, fairly sophisticated, bit of functionality into ‘legacy Movescount’ - particularly given that they’ve ruled out doing it for S9 owners in SuuntoApp and the pace of the rest of their development.

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                                    freeheeler @amasidlover
                                    last edited by 5 Nov 2019, 09:04

                                    @amasidlover
                                    I’m not sure if they rewrite it or if they just cleanout things… it is not stated clear either if analysis in MC will be possible and if MC web will become SA’s desktop version, which I would absolutely vote for!

                                    living sideways

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                                      amasidlover Bronze Member @freeheeler
                                      last edited by 5 Nov 2019, 09:06

                                      @TELE-HO "We will no longer call it Movescount and its role in our services will be to enable key functionality (including watch settings, routes and sport mode customization) for Ambit (1, 2 and 3) and Traverse family watches only. "

                                      I’d interpret that as it will only be for changing settings on older watches and nothing else.

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                                        freeheeler @amasidlover
                                        last edited by 5 Nov 2019, 09:13

                                        @amasidlover
                                        this could be right… 😞
                                        I mean basically, it’s really really good news for my relatives and friends using Ambit (and for myself as I still have A3PS). But I hope Suunto does not want us to use SA without their own official web service.
                                        Yes there are alternatives or “partners”.
                                        But I don’t understand why it should not be possible to put up a web end with all the parameters and improvements that are being done right now for SA?!

                                        living sideways

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                                          amasidlover Bronze Member @freeheeler
                                          last edited by 5 Nov 2019, 09:20

                                          @TELE-HO Sadly I’ve had to become quite cynical about sports tech - when it comes to hardware I only buy stuff that has all the features I need already present (and don’t rely on promises of future updates) and when it comes to cloud based analysis/storage I make sure I have an offline backup of all my workouts and one eye on what else is out there.

                                          I’ve moved analysis software a number of times now after ‘updates’ from the supplying company…

                                          But this is the first time I’ve had a supplier threaten to take away functionality from a hardware device I already own, that’s a new low…

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