Future S9 firmware wishlist summary

Алексей Омельченко

@cosmecosta please, see the answer before. I came here not to make people angry or happy, just to make the officials answer

freeheeler

@Алексей-Омельченко
I’m sure the complete answer was not “bla-bla-bla”…
We have seen complete quoted Suunto answers by other users, too. You can do that, too, if you like.

Алексей Омельченко

@TELE-HO I see you don’t want to understand the essence of that bug. Whether you are not a Suunto 9 user or simply are here to troll me, let’s finish the discussion. Good luck!

freeheeler

@Алексей-Омельченко
you did not yet clearly state your issue… I interpreted “the green light” as the OHR sensor you’re talking about.
I’m sorry you did not find what you were looking for in here…
I’m an engineer, too. I don’t rely on luck

isazi

@Алексей-Омельченко people asked very loudly to have new Firstbeat metrics, and they got them. Now, using those new metrics makes the battery drains faster (and independent people have done some experiments here, with the increased drain causing a day of battery less on normal usage), but that is not unexpected considering that the hardware is the same but the processing is increased (and probably also the frequency of readings). I, for one, prefer battery over fancy features, and disabled sleep tracking and 24 hours heart rate monitoring.

Bulkan

@Алексей-Омельченко Hi, we can’t help you with this tone.

I can understand your frustration but please can we keep it in polite terms?

We only can help you reporting the bug. But please change the tone.

@Алексей-Омельченко said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

@TELE-HO I do not know him, and I do not want to discuss with him how to be polite… and even try to offend him somehow.
My post is about letting more people know Suunto is making shit on intent.
And I’m not the one to like such kind of replies as “who are you to write here like that, where you’ve been before”.

Алексей Омельченко

@TELE-HO yes, normally they flicker and before the update they did. Now they are always on during those several minutes heart rate is measured. Per day, about 10% of battery volume makes difference.
I cannot disable 24/7 HR and use night heart rate monitoring which is important to me. Just before they issued that bug in 2.9.42 they’d answered me ‘maybe we’ll separate those two modes some time’. Almost a year passed…

tomahawk5000

nice conversation, I have just one question and it is not sarcastic, Garmin users have similar problems with support? Would I be more happy now having let say fenix 5x plus? Does anybody have Suunto and Garmin devices and can compare?

Алексей Омельченко

@isazi thank you for your answer. Now I know people asked about the bug to add and now they are finally satisfied.

freeheeler

@tomahawk5000
I can tell you this: what Garmin support?
…my experience is that there was no real support. Maybe some standard email, but nothing compared to Suunto official support.

freeheeler

@Алексей-Омельченко
ok, I understand you are not happy about the higher batteryconsumption during the day.
For some people 24/7 HR goes hand in hand with sleep tracking. I don’t use either features.
But you are right, it is most appreciated to do more customization on the watch and in your case to separate the function of 24/7 HR from sleep tracking.
I understand the answer from Suunto that they consider your suggestion but it is maybe not the highest priority as it sounds like a “niche” request… usually my requests are also a bit more specific and demanding to the Suunto team
All we can do is wait and meanwhile enjoy the rest of the watch… or in general the sports we do

freeheeler

@A-Former-User said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

Zooming navigation screen in locked mode.

I need to complete this request from our friend silentvoyager…
when a navigation message appears that tells you you are approaching the finish line or you are at the finishline, the lockbutton is actually locked.
It would be helpful (especially for racers) if the unlock function would be active in order to be able to unlock the watch and stop the activity.

sartoric

@TELE-HO @Алексей-Омельченко

If the problem is Sleep tracking and 24/7, you can disable 24/7 and still have sleep tracking active without any problem afair

If you want to track heart rate only during sleep, that’s not possible , I agree

Алексей Омельченко

@TELE-HO another bug was about ascent. I have asked why G***** and P**** products and even the old Ambit 3 measure ascent (elevation gain) correctly without barometer and Suunto 9 cannot do it. The answer was “buy baro and read the manual, a barometer is needed to measure ascent properly”.
I found the essence of that bug in xml log file, sent them the description and it did not take effect.
Bugs are not considered bugs, old bugs persist, new ones are issued. All the updates are about minor themes such as Suunto Plus or … we fixed wrong date after two months of hard work:)))

freeheeler

@Алексей-Омельченко said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

we fixed wrong date after two months of hard work:)))

ok, we know that this happened within very short AND during holidays…

this forum is full of discussions about the ascent issues with non barometric watches.
Unfortunately my short answer for ascent questions with non baro watches is identical with what you have just quoted…
From what I know there is a potential to improve this issue, but in the end the fact remains that nothing beats baro.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@Алексей-Омельченко

The constant lights are on to compute HRV and measure your heartRate better and provide better insights, since you are interested in 24/7 tracking.
About the altitude bug I suppose you refer to “less” ascent right? That has nothing todo with maps etc. Just for your info.

One thing to note here to make you not so confused. This forum is community based.
You see these moderator tags? These people are moderators because they where elected some time ago. They are not working for Suunto so bashing them or treating them as Suunto is unfair.

cosme.costa

@Алексей-Омельченко said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

I have asked why G***** and P**** products and even the old Ambit 3 measure ascent (elevation gain) correctly without barometer and Suunto 9 cannot do it.

Sorry but here I disagree, I usually run with a friend of mine that uses an Ambit 3 Run (No baro) and I with a SSU and now with the S9B, the Ambit 3 is always low on height compared with the SSU and the S9B, more when there are no big uphills. The S9B is pretty consistent with the SSU and with a Sigma ROX 10.0, also with baro.

Алексей Омельченко

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

Not better. It was good enough in 2.8.24, including sleep tracking. Everything works properly within this release, I could and still can compare. I have tested two watches at the same time, 2.9.42 firmware is made only to kill the battery. Please, no more lies, no one else uses that hack.
Depending on the current speed, the more the speed, the less is the ascent. That is because current point is not logged correctly and is written to xml file with previous numbers. With the speed of about 4 min/km and faster and moderate uphills up to 50% of all the ascent is lost. For a Vertical kilometer training is is quite not good to see a mere 500 meters on a watch display. For cross country skiing things are even worse… Only for slow nordic walking everything seems to be ok. Of course, it is all in Best performance mode.

isazi

@Алексей-Омельченко said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

Not better. It was good enough. I could and still can compare. It is made only to kill the battery. Please, no more lies, no one else uses that hack.

Good enough for? It didn’t use HRV before, it does now, so it is clearly no the same thing.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@Алексей-Омельченко

About 1: I can provide for you a FW to downgrade
About 2: I am not sure I understand what you say. I work on engineering (not for Suunto) and I do have some experience on this section. Suunto’s count ascent on ±3m change in (if I remember correctly) 6-9minutes. For non baro models its ±7meters.
I am not following about the XML that you talk about