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Future S9 firmware wishlist summary

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  • C Offline
    Cuba1hr
    last edited by Cuba1hr 26 Feb 2020, 21:58

    I get some of Aleksei’s frustrations about firmware. I would also like more things to be customizable on the watch (or through app, even better through proper web interface). I can’t praise enough Polar Flow, true that they screwed a bit users with earlier products and Polar Trainer…That reminds me on this situation with Movescount and Suunto app.

    @TELE-HO “nothing compared to Suunto official support” - e-mail or? What is the best way to submit a bunch of suggestions so that Suunto take them into consideration? I see things on the forum that are not solved from 2018 and 2019…and won’t be.

    In 3 months of having a watch, just one fw with day correction. They must be working on 7 and 9 successor:)
    About baro and altitude. I don’t get this watch, never had problem like this with Polar. In watch mode, I live at 253m above sea level and it was fine on the watch until it decided to increase that altitude for more than 20m and keep it for a few days. I know about pressure, but still.

    Speaking of Polar and bugs. I mentioned that my Polar reset 2-3 times during an activity in 5 years. Well not good start for S9B. With no activity, just “watch mode”, it had 60% of battery. Few minutes later I looked at the watch - blank screen.
    Pushed a button, nothing. Double finger tap for light - nothing. Connected it to a charger - nothing, dead.
    Did a software reset (top button for 12 sec or so) and it came back to life. What happened I don’t know.

    As I am finally starting with activities outdoor I was hoping a new firmware would be out for a while, but nothing yet.
    I lost my hope for better light control/activation, vibration customization, race pace, interval training, more screens, waypoints and POI (I mean, c’mon how many months does it take for Suunto programmers to add freaking waypoints to the app)…and “we are all moving to the new platform”.

    Question for those who use gloves or sweat during run (everybody) - how do you activate backlight (if it isn’t set to ON with button press)?

    I cannot double finger tap the screen with gloves or it doesn’t work with sweaty fingers when it is hot (I rub my fingers to my shirt or pants to try to get them dry and then activate backlight in 5th or 6th attempt.) That backlight and missing dedicated light button is just stupid, what were they thinking while designing the watch…and the same thing on Suunto 5 I think…and they are Finnish company…I guess it is cold during the winters there and people wear gloves. Maybe it is the global warming so we don’t need gloves anymore.
    And no, I don’t want to waste the (mediocre) battery life with every button press or have the light all the time. Someone mentioned tilt to activate the light, but that wasn’t accepted with much of approval here on the forum. I mean it could be done with what we have on the watch. For example 1-2 seconds middle button press or press 2 buttons at the same time (easy to press 2 buttons at once with a glove😀).
    I just remembered also unchangeable Sunday for the start of a week…resurces after battery charge and so on and on.

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      gerasimos Bronze Member @Cuba1hr
      last edited by gerasimos 27 Feb 2020, 13:49

      @Cuba1hr said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

      and the same thing on Suunto 5 I think…

      you are wrong at this point man!!.. check yourself
      dedicated button…1. Upper left button

      https://www.suunto.com/Support/Product-support/suunto_5/suunto_5/getting-started/buttons/

      and

      https://www.suunto.com/Support/Product-support/suunto_5/suunto_5/features/backlight/

      for the problem with gloves …and always open backlight on S9… agree…100% not so practical fora hardcore situtations

      Suunto Vertical Ti
      Suunto S9 gen1
      Suunto Ambit3 peak

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        Cuba1hr
        last edited by 27 Feb 2020, 15:03

        @gerasimos
        yes, I wasn’t checking for 5, that why I wrote “I think”, sorry. Thought about it as a bit weaker version of 9 🙂

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          gerasimos Bronze Member @Cuba1hr
          last edited by gerasimos 27 Feb 2020, 15:54

          @Cuba1hr
          all good man just I mention…

          also me too i have little problems with s9

          1. use compass at exercsice mode (and bearing locks)
          2. backlight function (i solve it unofficial with press upper or mid button for 2 sec)
          3. lock buttons in navigation mode because when i hike in difficult conditions and use my hands to get over an obstacle press accidentally the button and change the screen or open the bottom nav. menu)
          4. when i pause the activity i want to access in the menu to see my all exerscise data or redefine my navigate position when rest ( like ambit or new S7 )
          5. poi name at "the fly’’ to know wich is wich
          6. lock button in IN TIME MODE big buttons - easy accidental press…

          but i still fucking love this watch…and the “pros” in crucial and important fuctions are always in 101% functionally - trustworty.
          this minimal tech- watch companion has NEVER BUT NEVER betray me in the mountains or sea.

          i try a lot in the market…but…🔺 : S9 PURE POWER

          Suunto Vertical Ti
          Suunto S9 gen1
          Suunto Ambit3 peak

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            Vladimir Ustinov
            last edited by Vladimir Ustinov 3 Feb 2020, 13:31 2 Mar 2020, 13:28

            Longer duration of vibration for alarm.
            I suppose it is topmost new feature for next firmware. Currently notification/alarm vibration is so weak that it cannot be sensed even in relax condition…
            I want power of vibration be configured. For persons who prefer longer battery life maybe it will be necessary to choose current vibration duration but for those who really want to know what happening without periodically checking phone duration of vibration must be much much longer and powerfull than current.
            P.S. I constantly asking about this feature for more than a year, but still no luck. Time to time I’m finding myself in one step from smash this watches with huge hammer when I miss important notification… again.

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              Cuba1hr
              last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 13:46

              Yes, vibration is so weak and short that I still use miBand for waking up in the morning.

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                tomahawk5000
                last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 14:14

                Totaly agree regarding vibration.

                Kind regards,
                Tomek

                Suunto 9 baro + Android

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                  freeheeler @Vladimir Ustinov
                  last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 14:29

                  @Vladimir-Ustinov said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

                  smash this watches with huge hammer when I miss important notification…

                  what really?
                  if notification is that important to you, why don’t you just set the phone volume to maximum?

                  living sideways

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                    tomahawk5000 @freeheeler
                    last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 14:34

                    @TELE-HO I think that that guy just kidding but I for example don’t want to have sound notification to loud and I prefer vibration, that is why longer vibration than now is so important for me

                    Kind regards,
                    Tomek

                    Suunto 9 baro + Android

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                      Cuba1hr
                      last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 14:34

                      @TELE-HO

                      🙂 I don’t want to wake up other people with alarm sound (or little nephew when sleeping over) that remain sleeping when I get up for work.

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                        Vladimir Ustinov @freeheeler
                        last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 15:47

                        @TELE-HO My phone mostly in pocket or on table somewhere. I’m not a big fan of bomb alarm couple times every minute, so I have to choose “not too loud” sound level. You know from the time of first smart bands all wearable electronics with notification function can handle sensible vibration. My wife have 3 fitness and that watches also can handle it. Why so called “flagship” product cannot?

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                          Vladimir Ustinov @Cuba1hr
                          last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 15:54

                          @Cuba1hr 🤦 There was a time I used both watches and miband. But that watches wasn’t smart.
                          I’m owner of not so tough nervous system, so having “best suunto smart” watches means for me that they should handle function of $20 miBand. But… suunto think different 🙂

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                            Vladimir Ustinov @tomahawk5000
                            last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 16:30

                            @tomahawk5000 No kidding. I was a big fan of suunto. That was the only reason why I bought this.
                            But nowadays I’m absolutely sure that there will be no more suunto watches… mine. And they will be placed on “history” shelf if suunto will finally fix all issues or youtube will have a video about it resistance to drilling, sawing and smashing 😉

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                              QwertyBoy @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                              last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 18:59

                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Could you hint, when will the new firmware come out, please? 🙂

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                                isazi Moderator @QwertyBoy
                                last edited by isazi 3 Feb 2020, 19:10 2 Mar 2020, 19:04

                                @QwertyBoy we’re all waiting to see if we get Baidou 🙂
                                BTW I skied with the S9 today, the tracks are spectacular. Will share later on, if I manage to export the image on my mobile with QS.

                                Edit: no luck on my mobile, I need to work on that.

                                Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                Blog: isazi's home

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                                  nseslija Bronze Member @isazi
                                  last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 20:08

                                  @isazi glonass?

                                  Ambit 2S
                                  Ambit 3 Peak
                                  Suunto 9 baro
                                  Suunto Vertical Ti Solar

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                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @isazi
                                    last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 20:12

                                    @isazi whats the prob 😮

                                    Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
                                    Creator of Quantified-Self.io
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                                      isazi Moderator @nseslija
                                      last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 20:29

                                      @nseslija Galileo.

                                      Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                      Blog: isazi's home

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                                        isazi Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                        last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 20:30

                                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos simply I can’t seem to get a good screenshot. Maybe I should just share the links to QS.

                                        Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                        Blog: isazi's home

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                                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                                          last edited by 3 Mar 2020, 08:37

                                          I have been testing old and new GPS FW

                                          Here are my conclusions.

                                          1. The new FW by far improves the track and there are no big / issues
                                          2. BEIDOU is added
                                          3. QZSS is displayed
                                          4. GPS is one of the best performers perhaps after BEIDOU with Galilleo being the worse

                                          Galilleo has been on/off for me. In the first months it was great (same FW) but looks like EU has on/offs with their quality. 2 Watches , many FW’s Galileo can offset but can also make very smooth tracks.

                                          GPS looks Solid. No comment.
                                          Beidou can really improve the tracking, walking with my hand in the pocket and looking like I am running. Same conditions GPS only would have a worse track.
                                          Glonass looks okish, can offset a bit in some cases (water)

                                          I am eager this to go out and continue the discussion here .

                                          Cut corners and other distance annoyances have been fixed for me

                                          Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
                                          Creator of Quantified-Self.io
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