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    Rob33 Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
    last edited by 1 Jun 2020, 15:05

    @Brad_Olwin i don’t use yet Waypoints.
    I often get directions from friends or on heat maps. Should we add waypoints after sensitive points (crossings, very close trails) to be sure to be directed to these waypoints?

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      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Rob33
      last edited by 1 Jun 2020, 15:08

      @Rob33 said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

      @Brad_Olwin i don’t use yet Waypoints.
      I often get directions from friends or on heat maps. Should we add waypoints after sensitive points (crossings, very close trails) to be sure to be directed to these waypoints?

      I think that will work, it is very easy to add them.

      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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        Rob33 Bronze Member @Rob33
        last edited by 1 Jun 2020, 15:10

        @Brad_Olwin i don’t use yet Waypoints.
        I often get directions from friends or on heat maps. Should we add waypoints after sensitive points (crossings, very close trails) to be sure to be directed to these waypoints?

        What happens if during the race I decide to shorten the route by deleting a portion that includes a waypoint?

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          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Rob33
          last edited by 1 Jun 2020, 15:18

          @Rob33 said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

          @Brad_Olwin i don’t use yet Waypoints.
          I often get directions from friends or on heat maps. Should we add waypoints after sensitive points (crossings, very close trails) to be sure to be directed to these waypoints?

          What happens if during the race I decide to shorten the route by deleting a portion that includes a waypoint?

          This is where the functionality that you are having issues with I think will work well, when changing directions a route or reversing a route you have seen the watch will push you in the wrong direction. That allows you to change directions and the route will automatically pick up on the new direction. I have not tested this but I think the watch will eventually ignore the waypoint. Will be interesting to see what happens. The issue you had has happened to me but not often, I know improvements were made to the routing even before waypoints. If the watch rigidly followed exactly what was drawn then you would not be able to change on the fly.

          Another thing to test might be to switch back to breadcrumb and then back to the same route to “reset.” Since you are past the waypoint, the routing might ignore it. Good question.

          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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            Rob33 Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
            last edited by 1 Jun 2020, 16:28

            @Brad_Olwin I will try to do a test.
            It still seems to me that an alert in the event of a change of direction and / or path compared to the initial route: “new route YES or NO” would be an advance (Currently the watch is failing a route but without the consent of the runner, source of error)

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              tomahawk5000
              last edited by tomahawk5000 6 Jan 2020, 16:51 1 Jun 2020, 16:50

              Is there any chance that Suunto add more watch faces?

              Kind regards,
              Tomek

              Suunto 9 baro + Android

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                A Former User @Brad_Olwin
                last edited by A Former User 6 Jan 2020, 21:37 1 Jun 2020, 17:51

                @Brad_Olwin said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

                s perfect the way it is implemented. If you use the zone ring it is immediately obvious what zone you are in. When trail running it would be incredibly annoying to have the alarm c

                You are absolute right. Thats why it should be configurable to the needs of each run / customer. The zone ring is good and I use it, but I have to look on watch. Especially often at the end of very long HR2 runs…

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                  A Former User @Likarnik
                  last edited by 1 Jun 2020, 17:53

                  @Likarnik Exactly. I do trail and flat long runs. And I think a lot of people. Why only fulfill the needs of one group, if it is so easy to implement a setting for this…

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                    michaeldwilson Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                    last edited by 9 Jun 2020, 05:55

                    @Brad_Olwin said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

                    @mountainChris said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

                    @TELE-HO
                    I find both alarm and vibration could be more recognizable.
                    Especially for running in HR Zones. Sometimes it is not noticeable (depending on conditions I’m running).
                    If vibration motor can not got harder, I would like to adjust a longer vibration time.
                    Or continuous with small interuptions.
                    Same for alarm. There should be a continuous sound. Not only once…
                    I would also like to adjust these settings only for training (sound is always off / training always on).

                    This would be not so hard to do from software point, but I think a big thing for training feeling.
                    It is not so relaxed, if go on the long run in HR Zone 2 and have to look very often on watch, if you are still in.
                    I remember 20 years ago, my first HR watch from polar, which had a continuous alarm, if you were out of zone.
                    The long run is much more deep, if you do not have to look so often on watch.
                    Please Suunto, this is essential for training. 🙏

                    I absolutely do not want a continuous alarm when I go out of HR zone. I think it is perfect the way it is implemented. If you use the zone ring it is immediately obvious what zone you are in. When trail running it would be incredibly annoying to have the alarm continuously going off. Sorry but while doing long trail runs I often go above zone on uphills and below zone on downhills. It is impossible to keep in a high zone on technical down hill trails.

                    The current alarm is one great option, but it’s awfully hard to hear sometimes. My ears are becoming attuned to hearing the sound, but even so the song of a redwing blackbird can pull me a little bit, thinking I’ve left a zone. It would be nice to have a few more options, or maybe allowing users to individualize a little more how they are alerted through the zones. I don’t know if it’s even an option, but an app would be welcome that adds functionality through iPhone or Android for volume, alarm options, &c. If the phone could send beeps through my iPhone, problem solved for me.

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                      michaeldwilson Bronze Member @michaeldwilson
                      last edited by michaeldwilson 6 Dec 2020, 03:53 12 Jun 2020, 03:51

                      I gave up and bought the Polar H10 heart monitor. On my Suunto Baro 9, I just could not hear the beeps or feel the vibration on my runs with sounds from people and nature. It was just incredibly difficult and irritating try to stay in the zone having to constantly check my watch for my heartbeat reading. I would certainly defy anyone to say they can hear/feel the alerts when running on gravel-type or off-road surfaces!

                      So I’m deeply disappointed that I have to pay the extra $90 and wear extra equipment on runs.

                      I love everything about the Suunto Baro 9 except this. I’ve owned Suuntos for many years, from the X9 onward.

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                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @michaeldwilson
                        last edited by 12 Jun 2020, 07:49

                        @michaeldwilson I understand this.

                        That is why I use the zones screen , and prefer to peak when running.

                        Just saying.

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                          Rob33 Bronze Member
                          last edited by 16 Jun 2020, 14:57

                          By entering new sport modes in my watch, I have just noticed an astonishing adjustment if we use a belt: concerning HR we can deactivate the handle and belt sensors at the same time but if we use a belt we must systematically deactivate the wrist HR sensor to gain autonomy.
                          I don’t see the possibility of deactivating the wrist HR “continuously” (if you always use a HR per belt)…

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                            isazi Moderator @Rob33
                            last edited by 16 Jun 2020, 14:58

                            @Rob33 the OHR shuts off if you use a belt, without any need to toggle the option in the menu.

                            Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                            Blog: isazi's home

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                              Rob33 Bronze Member @isazi
                              last edited by 16 Jun 2020, 15:01

                              @isazi Ah OK! I don’t see… In my seat, there was a difference of 6 hours but I did not “turn on” the belt. 😊
                              I’ll check

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                                isazi Moderator @Rob33
                                last edited by 16 Jun 2020, 15:28

                                @Rob33 of you see the belt icon go green, you’re using the belt. If you see just the heart, without belt, then it’s the ohr.

                                Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                Blog: isazi's home

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                                  andrejsg @andrejsg
                                  last edited by 16 Jun 2020, 20:17

                                  @andrejsg said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

                                  I’d love to see:

                                  • strava live segments
                                  • custom interval durations (e.g. no 75 second option!)
                                    -new watch faces
                                    -data together with the navi screen. garmin has had this forever now.
                                    -ability to have interval and navi screen on during activity
                                    -enable/disable/change suunto plus mid-workout.
                                    -fix the lag with cycling stop/go/autopause. it’s so slow, it’s unusable.

                                  or whatever the new S10 has in stock… hopefully much thinner with stronger vibration and faster UI.

                                  Oh and one more thing please - 3 or 5 second countdown chime/vibration prior to upcoming interval or rest!

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                                    Luca Frezzato
                                    last edited by 17 Jun 2020, 12:38

                                    Hello to everybody 🖐

                                    I will be very happy when the firmware will support in cycling mode multiple sensor for speed and cadence. Now the last generation of sensors it’s without magnet, and comes in two different sensor with each a bluetooth connection.
                                    Currently the only solution (in addition to the use of an old concept sensor that integrates both speed and cadence) is to use only the cadence sensor (in the only Bluetooth connection available for a bike POD) and for the speed to use the GPS. However, it is not an optimal solution for a high-level GPS such as Suunto 9.

                                    Another thing, which has nothing to do with the firmware, but which would be of great help is to update the Suunto bike POD with one of the latest generation …

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                                      pcm_smeets @freeheeler
                                      last edited by 28 Jun 2020, 12:16

                                      @TELE-HO don’t adjust it?

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                                        freeheeler @pcm_smeets
                                        last edited by 28 Jun 2020, 20:30

                                        @pcm_smeets said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

                                        don’t adjust it?

                                        yes, that’s what I said… don’t adjust it. Don’t do anything the watch can do better

                                        living sideways

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                                          Fenr1r @freeheeler
                                          last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 11:05

                                          @TELE-HO said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

                                          Don’t do anything the watch can do better

                                          With respect, there are regions and conditions where the watch shows notably worse results than a known position on a map and/or the occasional elevation marker immediately in front of the user. The satellite angles and/or weather may particularly screw one or both of the watch’s not-exactly-precise-in-the-vertical sensors that day. The area might be particularly well-surveyed, with sub-metre accuracy on elevation.

                                          The Alti should Fuse GNSS, barometer AND known elevation, if told to. Hopefully the corrective would be incorporated if constant. E.g., if FusedAlti gets three up/down consistent corrections to user-known altitude, it applies a sensor-imprecision-humility fix to future estimations until corrected again.

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