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Future S9 firmware wishlist summary

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    isazi Moderator @Guest
    last edited by 1 Jun 2021, 16:30

    @_marcus_ sorry I don’t understand your idea. Even if you would combine different S+ apps in a single screen, if they are all working they are still consuming resources. And some are even conflicting, creating laps for different reasons.

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      A Former User @isazi
      last edited by 1 Jun 2021, 18:35

      @isazi
      I try it with the following example

      Choose a metric for each data field out of the S+ options:
      Data field 1: NGP
      Data field 2: Weather e.g. hPa with arrow up/flat/down
      Data field 3: LAT/LONG

      Lap counting mechanism: choose one
      Climb - Sprint - Loop

      Know what I mean?

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        isazi Moderator @Guest
        last edited by 1 Jun 2021, 19:49

        @_marcus_ I understand now.

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          A Former User @isazi
          last edited by 1 Jun 2021, 20:20

          @isazi
          I don’t know if there are many real life scenarios. For trailrunning I could imagine that example.

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            MdzOtt @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
            last edited by 17 Jun 2021, 04:23

            @dimitrios-kanellopoulos i suggested this earlier - remember the last used setting (e.g., the S+, Target, Wrist HR, Battery mode).
            I know that you may want to change it occasionally, but even if you reuse once, you already saved yourself some clicks.

            Or, in the defined sport mode, have an option to select all options (I think what @GNZ-ct suggested, but a bit expanded).

            btw. it would help if you could scroll around the options (in a loop). If you preferred option in S+ is Weather, you have to scroll through almost all other options (you are lucky, if you always select Climb).

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              northeast_trekker Bronze Member @MdzOtt
              last edited by 17 Jun 2021, 12:06

              @mdzott the loop idea is a great one. I find 90% of the time I just want the weather page and it is annoying to either not have the ability to customize order of the list or no ability to more quickly get to what you want.

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                sky-runner Silver Members @northeast_trekker
                last edited by 17 Jun 2021, 22:22

                @northeast_trekker The list should reorder according to most recently used S+ apps.

                And ideally S+ should be customable in the app per sport mode. Having to select it every single time on the watch was OK when S+ was first introduced, but I expected that to be made customizable in a next app update.

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                  A Former User @sky-runner
                  last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 09:00

                  After some experience with A3P and some garmin devices (FR45, 245 and F6S) and now the S9P, what I think it misses on the S9P firmware (should be same as S9B)

                  • Customization of data fields on watchface
                  • Quick toggle for airplane mode (on the same page as do not disturb)
                  • Broadcast ohr to other devices (not super needed, but nice when your forgot your hr strap)
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                    EzioAuditore Gold Members @Guest
                    last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 09:09

                    I would really like adding the shortcut to the airplane mode in the shortcuts menu 😞 I usually turn off the BT radio at night when I sleep or when I do not want to receive notifications and the steps I have to take to disable/enable it are too much imho.

                    Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
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                      pavel.samokha @EzioAuditore
                      last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 09:11

                      @hristijan-petreski why not use DND mode for that?

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                        EzioAuditore Gold Members @pavel.samokha
                        last edited by EzioAuditore 18 Jun 2021, 09:16

                        @pavel-samokha for one DND does not disable the radio emitting, secondly I do not have every-day’s meeting in the same time during the day so to enable it. I use it at night but that is that.

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                          pavel.samokha @EzioAuditore
                          last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 09:21

                          @hristijan-petreski you can enable/disable DND any time via shortcuts menu, just saying

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                            EzioAuditore Gold Members @pavel.samokha
                            last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 09:28

                            @pavel-samokha I know 🙂 But I may not have been clear enough. I do not mind the notifications so much as much as I like to reduce the emission around me. I know it is minor but it is close to you especially when you sleep and you have your hand near your head for example, etc. There is the wi-fi, the philips hues, the netatmo sensors, other BT devices and all this combined results in increased radiation (not to mention the neighbors wi-fi and devices). For example in garmin forums one guy measured the radiation of the fenix 6 (if you do not toggle airplane it emits wi-fi, bt and ant+) and found it to be huge. So I was just trying to find a fast way to disable the BT radio.

                            Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
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                              DMytro @EzioAuditore
                              last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 10:07

                              @hristijan-petreski may your provide links for “that guy’s” measurement? I wonder what exactly did he measure. Bt and WiFi frequently ain’t your typical gamma rays, so one won’t become hulk overnight.

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                                DMytro @EzioAuditore
                                last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 10:09

                                @hristijan-petreski I’m not telling you what to turn on/off, but just saying - humans shouldn’t be affected by these frequencies. It follows from “common sense” as well as from inconclusive research trying to prove otherwise

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                                  EzioAuditore Gold Members @DMytro
                                  last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 10:21

                                  @дима-мельниченко Yes I will try and send this later it was in some sub-question not directly aimed at the airplane mode and radio emission. Basically it is what you say that the emission is surely ‘less’ than a mobile (I might used the wrong word ‘huge’ in my previous post) but nevertheless I just expressed my opinion to turn it off/on.

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                                    DMytro @EzioAuditore
                                    last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 10:37

                                    @hristijan-petreski nonono, I don’t mean that it’s less or more than that of a phone(it indeed is, but that doesn’t matter now). I’m saying that it’s all about frequency not intensity: only UV frequencies and higher may be harmful to humans.
                                    I suppose “harmfulness” boils down to DNA damage which may cause cancer. In this case imagine your trying to shoot tennis balls through a key hole: it just won’t fit. That’s the same with low frequency photons and DNA. Very very roughly of course, I’m not an expert on this subject and may be wrong, it just doesn’t make sense.

                                    Brad_OlwinB 1 Reply Last reply 18 Jun 2021, 11:59 Reply Quote 4
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                                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @DMytro
                                      last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 11:59

                                      @дима-мельниченко You are enough of an expert it seems but you are correct. There are other biological activities that could be affected by long range frequencies and those include the electrical gradients across cell membranes (how nerves conduct and how your cells generate energy) but those are not going to be affected by radio frequencies.

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                                        lexterm77 Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                                        last edited by lexterm77 19 Jun 2021, 00:46

                                        Non ionizing radiation consists of photons that carry too little energy to knock electron off an atom, all absorbed energy is therefore converted to heat. Your bt wifi or mobile radiation would heat your body by a about a very small fraction of what sun wave does to you. To do any harm you need photons that are less than 124nm wavelength or more than 10eV. To compare middle spectrum of visible light (about 500nm wavelength) and bt or mobile or wifi is several cm. Energy carried by photons of bt wifi or mobile device is roughly 120-240 thousand times weaker than green light. Green light is about 4 times weaker than ionizing radiation. It does not matter if it is 1Million watts or 10mW, if it does not knock electrons off an atom only result is heat. If your watch, mobile, microwave does not cook you, you will survive.

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                                          chrisc92 Bronze Member @stromdiddily
                                          last edited by chrisc92 19 Jun 2021, 19:18

                                          @stromdiddily very good idea . Garmin just released a new sport mode for the Enduro watch which is the direct competitor of s9 line (but from 80 to 300 h autonomy vs 25 to 170 h)

                                          Ultrarun Activity:

                                          Rather than selecting a run or trail run activity, we’ve added an ultrarun activity profile to Enduro that includes a built-in rest timer. If you’re running in an ultra race or marathon, you’ll be able to utilize the rest timer and log the time spent at aid stations — so later on, you’ll be able to see exactly when you were running and when you weren’t.

                                          I think it is a good idea for suunto as the brand has a long battery life strategy for long activities. And this is not a complicated function just laps markers .

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