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Future S9 firmware wishlist summary

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    surfboomerang @isazi
    last edited by 8 Sept 2021, 04:24

    @isazi said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

    @stromdiddily … the distance between you and the border

    This.

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      DMytro
      last edited by 8 Sept 2021, 15:07

      Btw I wish we had an adaptive s+ list, where last used items show on top. Just like in exercise tab the latest sports are shown on top.
      Or, even better, to be able to preconfigure an s+ for a custom sport.

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        dombo Bronze Member @sky-runner
        last edited by 8 Sept 2021, 18:13

        @sky-runner I wote for this. my “workaround” for road cycling is to create separate routes for each climb in additional to complete route and switch between routes during ride. what a user experience!

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          peringmar Silver Members
          last edited by 8 Sept 2021, 18:19

          How about Strava segments?

          Suunto Spartan Sport WHR power user

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            MiniForklift Platinum Member @peringmar
            last edited by 8 Sept 2021, 22:05

            @peringmar Yeah, my training partner has live segments with his Garmin and that was one of the reasons why he bought it. Says it’s great to have

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              Joakiss @MiniForklift
              last edited by 9 Sept 2021, 08:28

              @miniforklift For those of us who are far from the KOMs, I see it a bit unnecessary and sometimes depressingly 😂

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                sky-runner Silver Members @peringmar
                last edited by 9 Sept 2021, 16:10

                @peringmar Strava segments would be great to have. I use live segment tracking often on F6X but unfortunately the implementation is quite flaky and fails almost 100% when following longer trail segments.

                Basically the way it works on Fenix is that once you’ve matched a segment start it adds an extra screen which shows time on the segment, distance remaining, time ahead/behind of a PR, and another time behind that varies between the segment CR or your friend on the segment leaderboard. Fenix also highlights the segment on the map screen which is handy for following the segment.

                If I designed live segments on a Suunto watch, I’d combine the map with the segment data and show a single segment screen with a segment shape as a route with your position on it to help navigating, then at the bottom distance remaining and at the top segment time and time ahead/behind the PR/CR. These times come from Strava and are embedded in segment FIT file as timestamps.

                This is the feature that I’d definitely want very much on a Suunto watch, especially considering the poor Garmin implementation.

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                  sky-runner Silver Members @Joakiss
                  last edited by sky-runner 9 Sept 2021, 16:14 9 Sept 2021, 16:13

                  @joakiss The beauty of live segments is that it doesn’t matter where you are on a leaderboard. It is more like a virtual partner where you race against your previous time. You see in real time how much you are ahead or behind your PR attempt on the same segment, and that is all that matters.

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                    peringmar Silver Members @sky-runner
                    last edited by 9 Sept 2021, 20:05

                    @sky-runner Thank you for sharing your insights from a other platform, interesting to know how they do it. Maybe suunto can improve 😉

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                      peringmar Silver Members @MiniForklift
                      last edited by 9 Sept 2021, 20:06

                      @miniforklift hahaha, my training buddy pretty much did the same thing

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                        northeast_trekker Bronze Member @peringmar
                        last edited by 10 Sept 2021, 12:55

                        @peringmar as far as I know the main limitation for Suunto watches to gain this feature is storage for the data that would tell the watch that it is approaching a segment…true they can store a certain amount of routes and POIs however typically the Garmin watches that have this feature also can cache offline music and other heavy things like that so they are already configured with better specs. Others might be able to tell us exactly how many segments the S line could store if no routes or POIs were loaded (S9baro and S9 for instance). But I am all for this feature and am surprised that Suunto doesn’t have any watch that offers this since even Polar has this in their Vantage V watch.

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                          sky-runner Silver Members @northeast_trekker
                          last edited by 11 Sept 2021, 03:19

                          @northeast_trekker I don’t think that much storage is needed. Each segment is pretty much a GPX track and as far as I can tell points on it are fairly wide spaced - probably every 10 seconds or so.
                          Plus Garmin separately cashes start points for all stored segments to make it easy to match a segment start.

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                            The_77 Silver Members @sky-runner
                            last edited by 11 Sept 2021, 06:14

                            @sky-runner I think even the 735xt had implementation of live segments from memory and that had none of the modern bells and whistles, just the ability to follow a route.

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                              northeast_trekker Bronze Member @sky-runner
                              last edited by 13 Sept 2021, 12:27

                              @sky-runner maybe but I still know there is a limit and thus there would be a limit for number of segments you could “star” to have synced to the watch. If it was enough of a limitation by the hardware it of course would not be worth it for the Suunto software teams to pursue…that was mainly my point.

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                                DMytro
                                last edited by 16 Sept 2021, 12:26

                                So, an update for S7 went live yesterday. I wonder if S9 will get one before the vertical week.

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                                  Mi_chael Bronze Member @DMytro
                                  last edited by 16 Sept 2021, 12:46

                                  @dmytro

                                  Too risky for Suunto.

                                  It for that i love Suunto. Nice design, good hardware and bugless software.

                                  😉

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                                    TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Mi_chael
                                    last edited by 16 Sept 2021, 13:04

                                    @mi_chael They could clearly work on the reliability of their functions like stepcount / VO2max, Resources etc.

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                                      DMytro @TheGuyFromTheSummit
                                      last edited by 16 Sept 2021, 13:13

                                      @theguyfromthesummit VO2max and resources aren’t technically theirs. And step count is deliberately ignored to invest time in other things.

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                                        DMytro @Mi_chael
                                        last edited by 16 Sept 2021, 13:13

                                        @mi_chael too bad, I was hoping to try out new firmware in the mountains over the weekend.

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                                          Patrick Löffler Silver Members @DMytro
                                          last edited by 16 Sept 2021, 13:19

                                          @dmytro Oh yes. Me too! Come on, still 1,5 days before the weekend. 😀

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                                          Thinking about going back to Suunto 9 Peak

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