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@peringmar Yeah, my training partner has live segments with his Garmin and that was one of the reasons why he bought it. Says it’s great to have
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@miniforklift For those of us who are far from the KOMs, I see it a bit unnecessary and sometimes depressingly
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@peringmar Strava segments would be great to have. I use live segment tracking often on F6X but unfortunately the implementation is quite flaky and fails almost 100% when following longer trail segments.
Basically the way it works on Fenix is that once you’ve matched a segment start it adds an extra screen which shows time on the segment, distance remaining, time ahead/behind of a PR, and another time behind that varies between the segment CR or your friend on the segment leaderboard. Fenix also highlights the segment on the map screen which is handy for following the segment.
If I designed live segments on a Suunto watch, I’d combine the map with the segment data and show a single segment screen with a segment shape as a route with your position on it to help navigating, then at the bottom distance remaining and at the top segment time and time ahead/behind the PR/CR. These times come from Strava and are embedded in segment FIT file as timestamps.
This is the feature that I’d definitely want very much on a Suunto watch, especially considering the poor Garmin implementation.
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@joakiss The beauty of live segments is that it doesn’t matter where you are on a leaderboard. It is more like a virtual partner where you race against your previous time. You see in real time how much you are ahead or behind your PR attempt on the same segment, and that is all that matters.
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@sky-runner Thank you for sharing your insights from a other platform, interesting to know how they do it. Maybe suunto can improve
Suunto Spartan Sport WHR power user
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@miniforklift hahaha, my training buddy pretty much did the same thing
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@peringmar as far as I know the main limitation for Suunto watches to gain this feature is storage for the data that would tell the watch that it is approaching a segment…true they can store a certain amount of routes and POIs however typically the Garmin watches that have this feature also can cache offline music and other heavy things like that so they are already configured with better specs. Others might be able to tell us exactly how many segments the S line could store if no routes or POIs were loaded (S9baro and S9 for instance). But I am all for this feature and am surprised that Suunto doesn’t have any watch that offers this since even Polar has this in their Vantage V watch.
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@northeast_trekker I don’t think that much storage is needed. Each segment is pretty much a GPX track and as far as I can tell points on it are fairly wide spaced - probably every 10 seconds or so.
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@sky-runner I think even the 735xt had implementation of live segments from memory and that had none of the modern bells and whistles, just the ability to follow a route.
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@sky-runner maybe but I still know there is a limit and thus there would be a limit for number of segments you could “star” to have synced to the watch. If it was enough of a limitation by the hardware it of course would not be worth it for the Suunto software teams to pursue…that was mainly my point.
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So, an update for S7 went live yesterday. I wonder if S9 will get one before the vertical week.
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Too risky for Suunto.
It for that i love Suunto. Nice design, good hardware and bugless software.
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@mi_chael They could clearly work on the reliability of their functions like stepcount / VO2max, Resources etc.
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@theguyfromthesummit VO2max and resources aren’t technically theirs. And step count is deliberately ignored to invest time in other things.
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@mi_chael too bad, I was hoping to try out new firmware in the mountains over the weekend.
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@dmytro Oh yes. Me too! Come on, still 1,5 days before the weekend.
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New firmware will come with new watch. When you see new watch teasing, firmware update will be just around the corner…
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@mi_chael New watch - new firmware sounds reasonable. Any idea when? I know there are already ongoing speculations in the forum: https://forum.suunto.com/topic/6772/suunto-ow202 World Vertical Week would have been also a good moment for a firmware update. Still hoping.
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@mi_chael yes, but it will be the second release from this point. I remember that embargo on the new watch should drop around Hollidays. This is also consistent with suunto releasing something new in late autum/winter.
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@dmytro Investing time in what?
sorry if I sound like a haterboy or something, but since spring my S9B is getting less and less reliable, and the constant new app UI is kind of annoying.
GPS is getting worse from day to day etc.
