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Future S9 firmware wishlist summary

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    nseslija Bronze Member @Guest
    last edited by 20 Dec 2019, 07:18

    @silentvoyager Great suggestions!

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      vimegar
      last edited by 20 Dec 2019, 08:00

      I wish only that GPS run fine…

      Sorry, but It’s the worst GPS that I had ever

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        cosme.costa @vimegar
        last edited by 20 Dec 2019, 08:24

        @vimegar said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

        I wish only that GPS run fine…

        Sorry, but It’s the worst GPS that I had ever

        I do not know which were your previous GPS watches but I had an Ambit 3 Vertical and a SSU. The A3 Vertical has been the worse of them by far, SSU was better than the Vertical and acceptable. The S9, with GPS+GALILEO and the two last firmware (I did not have the S9 before) it is better than the SSU and very acceptable in my opinion. I’m quite happy with it.

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          freeheeler @cosme.costa
          last edited by 20 Dec 2019, 08:31

          @cosmecosta
          yes it’s true… S9B GPS could be better… but I haven’t tried the combo of either of the other 2 systems to see if it improves. I think I’ll do that in case I find motivation to go running between skiing days 😉
          But it is also true that A3PS has way way better precision than S9B has.
          If I only knew S9B I think I would be happy with what it records. Since I compare sometimes with A3PS directly, I know that Suunto did better with the Sirfstar chip.

          living sideways

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            Zdeněk Hruška Bronze Member @Guest
            last edited by 20 Dec 2019, 08:43

            @silentvoyager Awesome list, I love it! I hope those points will get to the people who could actually do something with it. I mean it’s great to have hope in something new like SuuntoPlus but seeing your list I am almost sure that at least some of those points should be reconsidered. To make our watches more user friendly. To make it better for day to day use.

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              cosme.costa @freeheeler
              last edited by 20 Dec 2019, 08:56

              @TELE-HO said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

              @cosmecosta
              yes it’s true… S9B GPS could be better… but I haven’t tried the combo of either of the other 2 systems to see if it improves. I think I’ll do that in case I find motivation to go running between skiing days 😉
              But it is also true that A3PS has way way better precision than S9B has.
              If I only knew S9B I think I would be happy with what it records. Since I compare sometimes with A3PS directly, I know that Suunto did better with the Sirfstar chip.

              I had the A3 Vertical that despite using the Sirfstar chip dosen’t have the antenna in the same position than the A3 Peak (so I can’t compare) and the SSU has the Sirfstar chip and GPS is worse (not much) than the S9. I do not know if they did better with the Sirfstar that with Sony chip but I do think they are really improving, working on it and in a very good direction. What would be good is to compare how the S5 does comparing with the S9 (S5 has has the same antenna disposition than the A3Peak) and compare the different brands with Sony Chip with the Suunto 5/9, here I think that Suunto is doing well (I do not read much complains about)

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                freeheeler @cosme.costa
                last edited by 20 Dec 2019, 09:01

                @cosmecosta
                i noticed that the antenna of S5 must be where it was in A3PS as the housing looks identical.
                …maybe I should get an S5 for my wife, if she wants it or not… it’s for the sake of science 😀
                …no serious: good point! I’ll open a thread about it 👍

                living sideways

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                  isazi Moderator @freeheeler
                  last edited by 20 Dec 2019, 15:08

                  @TELE-HO said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

                  @silentvoyager said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

                  Custom sport modes must inherit settings like GPS mode

                  and use baro mode for alti “stationary” sports, like SUP, swim and gym stuff…

                  I keep having no problems with that, my gym activities have 0 ascent and 0 descent, always.

                  Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                  Blog: isazi's home

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                    freeheeler @isazi
                    last edited by freeheeler 20 Dec 2019, 15:15

                    @isazi
                    maybe I have to choose a different sportmode as basis… crossfit might have alti activated. i’ll rearrange my sport modes tonight anyway, i’ll check then 👍
                    (we’re still talking values in QS, right? because SA doesn’t show ascent for crossfit for me either, just QS does)

                    living sideways

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                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
                      last edited by 20 Dec 2019, 15:31

                      @silentvoyager about 3 we don’t do anything with smart recording and distance.

                      We can extrapolate the distance for you but that will reduce the watch memory which is something a 3rd party software can do.

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                        DavorP @cosme.costa
                        last edited by 20 Dec 2019, 15:31

                        @cosmecosta
                        Wow. Interesting information. GPS accuracy on SSU is not bad for my needs (hiking in unfamiliar areas), I’m actually quite satisfied with it, but I was convinced that Vertical was better in that regard.

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                          A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                          last edited by A Former User 20 Dec 2019, 21:53

                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

                          @silentvoyager about 3 we don’t do anything with smart recording and distance.

                          We can extrapolate the distance for you but that will reduce the watch memory which is something a 3rd party software can do.

                          I don’t know exactly what the watch does, perhaps that’s the Sony GPS chip that does that, but there is definitely a magic 10 meter threshold that influences when a new position is recorded. On my trail runs a significant majority of points are 10 meters or further apart. I see that when looking at distance streams in FIT files produced by Suunto 9.

                          When running on road 10 meters isn’t that far and is usually covered in 2-3 seconds. However on trails it often takes much longer to cover. And having a threshold like that ensures that the track cuts through most turns. That looks especially bad on tight switchbacks.

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                            A Former User @freeheeler
                            last edited by 21 Dec 2019, 08:50

                            New Watchfaces…

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                              fazel Bronze Member
                              last edited by 21 Dec 2019, 11:36

                              How about the ability to shuffle the order of the screens as you scroll down? I’m typically most interested in recovery status, so I’d prefer to have the firstbeat metrics first. Others may have different preferences.

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                                Bulkan Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                last edited by 21 Dec 2019, 15:04

                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Suunto app could do it? I miss my ascend and descend in zwift. 😞

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                                  isazi Moderator @fazel
                                  last edited by 22 Dec 2019, 14:38

                                  @fazel said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

                                  How about the ability to shuffle the order of the screens as you scroll down?

                                  And remove unused ones!

                                  Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                  Blog: isazi's home

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                                    Durri
                                    last edited by 25 Dec 2019, 13:48

                                    native STRYD support😉

                                    Suunto Race Titanium, Suunto 9 Baro Titanium, Polar V800, Vostok Anchar Europe Titanium, Hoka One One, Focus Atlas 6.8, Rose Pro SL, Giant Roam 2

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                                      Durri @Durri
                                      last edited by 25 Dec 2019, 13:54

                                      @Durri My last outdoor running with Stryd was with the Polar V800 and there the GPS data was entered. This is running with Suunto 9 baro and GPS data is missing.Screenshot_20191225_145200.jpg

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                                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @Durri
                                        last edited by 25 Dec 2019, 13:58

                                        @Durri The S9 does have native Stryd support. I am not sure what more support that you are looking for.

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                                          Durri @Brad_Olwin
                                          last edited by 25 Dec 2019, 16:09

                                          @Brad_Olwin If it has native support, then why didn’t it write my GPS data like the V800?Screenshot_20191225_170743.jpg

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