Future S9 firmware wishlist summary

[isazi]

@nikola-penev tomorrow, 25th of January 2022.

[freeheeler]

@isazi
and our batteries will receive a rejuvenating treatment

[isazi]

As @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in another topic, no structured intervals (or planned workouts) coming tomorrow. But rumors are here to stay with us. Until March? Maybe

[darxmurf]

I have to say, I don’t understand this “secret” policy about updates for existing products (I mean for all the brands, not only suunto). I can potentially understand that for new devices, and even, what would it change if the brand releases information about a new gear 1 month before the official release? I mean, they will release it anyway and can’t change their production line the last month.

Then what’s the purpose? Giving info in advance will help customers in their choice and if the product won’t match what they expect, they won’t buy it anyway, secret or not.

But giving news about the content of the next firmware is, in my opinion, something useful for the community.

Anyway, waiting for the firmware tomorrow.

[Bulkan]

@darxmurf said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

I have to say, I don’t understand this “secret” policy about updates for existing products (I mean for all the brands, not only suunto). I can potentially understand that for new devices, and even, what would it change if the brand releases information about a new gear 1 month before the official release? I mean, they will release it anyway and can’t change their production line the last month.

Then what’s the purpose? Giving info in advance will help customers in their choice and if the product won’t match what they expect, they won’t buy it anyway, secret or not.

But giving news about the content of the next firmware is, in my opinion, something useful for the community.

Anyway, waiting for the firmware tomorrow.

Aha, so you want a brand to tell all the competitors in what is working, when is going to be released and what is new?

Is a great idea!

[DMytro]

@bulkan one month in advance is not like 3 years in advance.

[Bulkan]

@dmytro Zero info to anyone. None of the non Suunto’s family knows anything.

[darxmurf]

@bulkan well, do you really think one month will give enough time to a competitor to release something or change an existing device?

[DMytro]

@bulkan fine:)
Not up to me to decide anyway.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@darxmurf it doesn’t work 1:1. Meaning - competition won’t copy a feature in one month.

But they may offer something competitive earlier that is similar in functionality.

There is also an aspect of certain technicalities that may interfere with the project, even in the latest stages. Let’s say something is 80% ready and already being field tested and scheduled for release in one month, only for the testers to unveil some hard to crush bugs that might push the release to next quarter. This isn’t a problem if you won’t promise that such a feature is going to arrive next month.

Things are moving fast. Way too fast. I think that we might underestimate how fast.

[isazi]

@łukasz-szmigiel agree. If Suunto delivers an update, people will mostly like it. If Suunto promises something and not delivers, for any reason, people will complain. Why then promise things?

[DMytro]

@isazi to attract potential buyers? I think some people may consider getting a watch which does not yet have a certain feature but is promised to get it some time

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@dmytro never buy a product for planned / speculated / promised features. This is a bubble, easy to rupture.

[DMytro]

@łukasz-szmigiel sure, but if you have a tie between two products, promised features might be helpful. Also to understand the direction a company goes.

[BobMiles]

They should just do open betas like Garmin does with almost all their watches. Yes it is additional work, but it clearly is key to iron out all the bugs and quirks. You just can’t test all the combinations that a multi sport watch is put through in real life use, unless it is in real life use.

[Bulkan]

@bobmiles said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

They should just do open betas like Garmin does with almost all their watches. Yes it is additional work, but it clearly is key to iron out all the bugs and quirks. You just can’t test all the combinations that a multi sport watch is put through in real life use, unless it is in real life use.

I think is what a field tester do. Real life, break the watch, test it…

[BobMiles]

@bulkan yes, but how many are there? I’d say you need pretty high cardinality to test all the functions the way you need to discover bugs.

[Bulkan]

@bobmiles said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

@bulkan yes, but how many are there? I’d say you need pretty high cardinality to test all the functions the way you need to discover bugs.

I think someone said once:

“The first rule of field tester club is you do not talk about field tester club”

[isazi]

@bobmiles that would be cool, but needs an amount of resources to manage that maybe Suunto does not have. Garmin is a billion dollar company.

[BobMiles]

@bulkan message received!