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Future S9 firmware wishlist summary

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    darxmurf Platinum Member @Bulkan
    last edited by 24 Jan 2022, 17:18

    @bulkan well, do you really think one month will give enough time to a competitor to release something or change an existing device?

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      DMytro @Bulkan
      last edited by 24 Jan 2022, 17:18

      @bulkan fine:)
      Not up to me to decide anyway.

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        Łukasz Szmigiel @darxmurf
        last edited by 24 Jan 2022, 17:59

        @darxmurf it doesn’t work 1:1. Meaning - competition won’t copy a feature in one month.

        But they may offer something competitive earlier that is similar in functionality.

        There is also an aspect of certain technicalities that may interfere with the project, even in the latest stages. Let’s say something is 80% ready and already being field tested and scheduled for release in one month, only for the testers to unveil some hard to crush bugs that might push the release to next quarter. This isn’t a problem if you won’t promise that such a feature is going to arrive next month.

        Things are moving fast. Way too fast. I think that we might underestimate how fast.

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          isazi Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
          last edited by isazi 24 Jan 2022, 18:10

          @łukasz-szmigiel agree. If Suunto delivers an update, people will mostly like it. If Suunto promises something and not delivers, for any reason, people will complain. Why then promise things?

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            DMytro @isazi
            last edited by 24 Jan 2022, 18:24

            @isazi to attract potential buyers? I think some people may consider getting a watch which does not yet have a certain feature but is promised to get it some time

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              Łukasz Szmigiel @DMytro
              last edited by 24 Jan 2022, 18:32

              @dmytro never buy a product for planned / speculated / promised features. This is a bubble, easy to rupture.

              S9PP 2.40.38

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                DMytro @Łukasz Szmigiel
                last edited by 24 Jan 2022, 18:39

                @łukasz-szmigiel sure, but if you have a tie between two products, promised features might be helpful. Also to understand the direction a company goes.

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                  BobMiles Bronze Member @DMytro
                  last edited by 24 Jan 2022, 18:45

                  They should just do open betas like Garmin does with almost all their watches. Yes it is additional work, but it clearly is key to iron out all the bugs and quirks. You just can’t test all the combinations that a multi sport watch is put through in real life use, unless it is in real life use.

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                    Bulkan Moderator @BobMiles
                    last edited by 24 Jan 2022, 19:03

                    @bobmiles said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

                    They should just do open betas like Garmin does with almost all their watches. Yes it is additional work, but it clearly is key to iron out all the bugs and quirks. You just can’t test all the combinations that a multi sport watch is put through in real life use, unless it is in real life use.

                    I think is what a field tester do. Real life, break the watch, test it…

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                      BobMiles Bronze Member @Bulkan
                      last edited by 24 Jan 2022, 19:12

                      @bulkan yes, but how many are there? I’d say you need pretty high cardinality to test all the functions the way you need to discover bugs.

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                        Bulkan Moderator @BobMiles
                        last edited by 24 Jan 2022, 19:16

                        @bobmiles said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

                        @bulkan yes, but how many are there? I’d say you need pretty high cardinality to test all the functions the way you need to discover bugs.

                        I think someone said once:

                        “The first rule of field tester club is you do not talk about field tester club”

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                          isazi Moderator @BobMiles
                          last edited by 24 Jan 2022, 19:22

                          @bobmiles that would be cool, but needs an amount of resources to manage that maybe Suunto does not have. Garmin is a billion dollar company.

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                            BobMiles Bronze Member @Bulkan
                            last edited by 24 Jan 2022, 19:26

                            @bulkan 😂 message received!

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                              Bulkan Moderator @BobMiles
                              last edited by 24 Jan 2022, 19:27

                              @bobmiles said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

                              @bulkan 😂 message received!

                              I forgot to mention the second rule:

                              2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about FIELD TESTER CLUB.

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                                surfboomerang @BobMiles
                                last edited by 24 Jan 2022, 19:39

                                @bobmiles Pssst… wanna see a glimpse of field tester club? 😎 🤐

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojEHPcEoB94

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                                  MiniForklift Platinum Member @Bulkan
                                  last edited by MiniForklift 24 Jan 2022, 19:56

                                  @bulkan said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

                                  I forgot to mention the second rule:

                                  2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about FIELD TESTER CLUB.

                                  Oooooh say what? 😳

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                                    freeheeler @isazi
                                    last edited by 24 Jan 2022, 20:03

                                    @isazi
                                    under commit and over perform 👌

                                    living sideways

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                                      freeheeler @surfboomerang
                                      last edited by 24 Jan 2022, 20:04

                                      @surfboomerang
                                      I think this club we don’t talk about needs a telemark skier 😎

                                      living sideways

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                                        surfboomerang @freeheeler
                                        last edited by 24 Jan 2022, 20:17

                                        @freeheeler You’re totally right!
                                        Now that you mention it, I also didn’t see a windsurfer in the video 🤔

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                                          ChrisA Platinum Member @darxmurf
                                          last edited by ChrisA 24 Jan 2022, 20:33

                                          @darxmurf I fully agree to this concerning features that are not revolutionary new. So if Suunto would release Structured Intervalls, they could announce that and I don’t think that this would be a drastic drawback - just for example: Polar announced in spring of 2021 that they would bring a major firmware update to the Grit X (non Pro) towards the end of 2021 and detailed what features the update would bring (nothing new, but features that were formerly not available for the Grit X) - and they released this update in January now. You can read posts of a lot of happy Grit X users in Facebook now because they eagerly awaited this update - and therefore kept their watch and stayed with Polar as a brand.

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