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@isazi I still don’t understand. You are saying the garmin’s turn are not actual waypoints?
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@markytarky As @isazi says Garmin uses the map information to do a routing in your track, as a car GPS does, you can also add waypoints.
On the Suunto devices the route planer adds the turn-by-turn info as waypoints, the watch only reads the track info.
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@cosme-costa what if we’d call TbT “turn X” and have the watch exclude all WPs with such names from the list of coming ups. SA can restrict creation or import of WPs to avoid using the names “turn X” to avoid collisions.
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To record “sled sport” I use “ski touring” and then edit it in SA to other unspecified sport, but it could be easier and would be very nice to have a predefined “sled sport” on the watch.
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@wotus funny - I was using snow shoeing für this
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@dmytro This would be good in my opinion, and a good way to make more nice the navigation TbT. In my opinion, and I do not know how difficult it is to implement, instead of text we should see an icon.
Personally I don’t use TbT with the S9B, I tried and too many alarms or to little, not all the trails are in the route builders (I guess is a map thing, mainly Open Street Maps), all depends on how it interprets the route. I’m quite used and happy on how navigation works in Suunto devices.
With Garmin this is better, at least for biking with a bigger screen, you can look ahead how the turn is going to be but even then I find it quite intrusive too.
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Simple request here, I’d love an option to enable an hourly beep like all of the older digital watches used to do! Well actually I’d prefer a short beep-beep
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After a mountain bike ride with navigation of a planned route I want to write my experience and the wish to change the popup screen … S9B mounted on the handle bar.
While mountain biking I have not much time to look at the popup screen which announces a left or right turn. Just a second or two, especially in down hills.
The screen looks like this …
To the information in the upper black section should be added a white symbol , here an arrow pointing to the right side behind the text “Rechts/Right”, an arrow pointing to the left side in front of the text “Links/Left”. This information can be recognised in a second or even faster. The distance is okay, but it should count down while the screen stays on the display until the point is reached. The time is obsolete, because while biking there is always 00:00 or 00:01 as value. I think that the navigation on the Polar watches is the one which is the best for cycling.
With the mountain bike or road bike I use the navigation screen to have the route displayed all the time. With the disadvantage that no other information is available (altitude, ascent, distance, speed).
Thanks for reading and I hope that it is clear what I meant.
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S9B and a workout on the treadmill …
I got a brand new S9B Titanium and started a workout on the treadmill. To compare the results I also used a Coros Vertix 2.
While the Coros Vertix 2 gave excellent data (30 meter difference after 7,5 km of running, given by the treadmill, with the wrist heart rate exactly the same heart rate as a Polar Verity Sense, connected to the treadmill, SPM with an average of 170, which is correct after comparing it with my data from the Runn treadmill sensor), the S9B was completely wrong.
10,95 km instead of 7,5
Average heart rate 175 instead of 135
SPM 85 instead of 170No problem, because usually I connect the Runn treadmill sensor to the Suunto watch, to have accurate data.
But I ask me, why the Vertix 2 can do it out of the box, never did a run outside, never calibrated it, while the S9B is far, far away from what happened.
Heart rate can be fixed by another place on the wrist/arm, but distance and SPM is not to fix. A calibration is not possible and to run outside with GPS before using the treadmill sports mode is strange.
May be Suunto can change things here … thanks for reading.
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@pilleus I’d appreciate this too! However, these texts are waypoint names and I doubt they can be changed for symbols instead. Maybe only for things like “->”, but it doesn’t look good.
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@dmytro
at least translation would be easy
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@pilleus suunto has SPM (cadence) as revolutions per minute, not steps per minute. 2 steps instead of one. 85x2=170. so this is also OK. on the other hand I’m curious how coros knows, what is length of your step without calibration. I assume it is just different default value which match you better.
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@dombo thanks for SPM, another way to get the correct data.
Even if I have intervals on the treadmill the Vertix 2 is spot on with the distance. May be it is because I am the average human being. But I don’t understand why there is no calibration on the S9B immediately after the workout to adjust the distance and to take this value (SPM and calibrated distance) for future trainings!?
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@pilleus said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:
After a mountain bike ride with navigation of a planned route I want to write my experience and the wish to change the popup screen … S9B mounted on the handle bar.
While mountain biking I have not much time to look at the popup screen which announces a left or right turn. Just a second or two, especially in down hills.
The screen looks like this …
To the information in the upper black section should be added a white symbol , here an arrow pointing to the right side behind the text “Rechts/Right”, an arrow pointing to the left side in front of the text “Links/Left”. This information can be recognised in a second or even faster. The distance is okay, but it should count down while the screen stays on the display until the point is reached. The time is obsolete, because while biking there is always 00:00 or 00:01 as value. I think that the navigation on the Polar watches is the one which is the best for cycling.
With the mountain bike or road bike I use the navigation screen to have the route displayed all the time. With the disadvantage that no other information is available (altitude, ascent, distance, speed).
Thanks for reading and I hope that it is clear what I meant.
+1 for turn symbols rather than text, for us hikers with non 20-20 eyesight!!
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@freeheeler
A feature similar to Garmin’s Virtual Run app to enable us to use the watch as a HR monitor when using Zwift or Wahoo. Currently there’s no way to use them without generating duplicate sessions. -
@wakarimasen On this respect, I have seen the review of the you tube channel the run testers on the suunto 5 peak. I feel what they said about navigation is true. Unfortunately is not good, but is true. I strongly advice Suunto developers to have a look.
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@fluca said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:
@wakarimasen On this respect, I have seen the review of the you tube channel the run testers on the suunto 5 peak. I feel what they said about navigation is true. Unfortunately is not good, but is true. I strongly advice Suunto developers to have a look.
Link?
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@fenr1r thank you, Yes that’s the right one.
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@fenr1r I think they might be a little too harsh. However, I agree with TbT criticism - I think it was kind of underdiscussed in the forum.
Overall, I’d say there are two-three major points, that were also mentioned by other reviewers and users and I’m confident suunto’s going to address them in the future.