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S9B and a workout on the treadmill …
I got a brand new S9B Titanium and started a workout on the treadmill. To compare the results I also used a Coros Vertix 2.
While the Coros Vertix 2 gave excellent data (30 meter difference after 7,5 km of running, given by the treadmill, with the wrist heart rate exactly the same heart rate as a Polar Verity Sense, connected to the treadmill, SPM with an average of 170, which is correct after comparing it with my data from the Runn treadmill sensor), the S9B was completely wrong.
10,95 km instead of 7,5
Average heart rate 175 instead of 135
SPM 85 instead of 170No problem, because usually I connect the Runn treadmill sensor to the Suunto watch, to have accurate data.
But I ask me, why the Vertix 2 can do it out of the box, never did a run outside, never calibrated it, while the S9B is far, far away from what happened.
Heart rate can be fixed by another place on the wrist/arm, but distance and SPM is not to fix. A calibration is not possible and to run outside with GPS before using the treadmill sports mode is strange.
May be Suunto can change things here … thanks for reading.
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@pilleus I’d appreciate this too! However, these texts are waypoint names and I doubt they can be changed for symbols instead. Maybe only for things like “->”, but it doesn’t look good.
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@dmytro
at least translation would be easy
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@pilleus suunto has SPM (cadence) as revolutions per minute, not steps per minute. 2 steps instead of one. 85x2=170. so this is also OK. on the other hand I’m curious how coros knows, what is length of your step without calibration. I assume it is just different default value which match you better.
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@dombo thanks for SPM, another way to get the correct data.
Even if I have intervals on the treadmill the Vertix 2 is spot on with the distance. May be it is because I am the average human being. But I don’t understand why there is no calibration on the S9B immediately after the workout to adjust the distance and to take this value (SPM and calibrated distance) for future trainings!?
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@pilleus said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:
After a mountain bike ride with navigation of a planned route I want to write my experience and the wish to change the popup screen … S9B mounted on the handle bar.
While mountain biking I have not much time to look at the popup screen which announces a left or right turn. Just a second or two, especially in down hills.
The screen looks like this …
To the information in the upper black section should be added a white symbol , here an arrow pointing to the right side behind the text “Rechts/Right”, an arrow pointing to the left side in front of the text “Links/Left”. This information can be recognised in a second or even faster. The distance is okay, but it should count down while the screen stays on the display until the point is reached. The time is obsolete, because while biking there is always 00:00 or 00:01 as value. I think that the navigation on the Polar watches is the one which is the best for cycling.
With the mountain bike or road bike I use the navigation screen to have the route displayed all the time. With the disadvantage that no other information is available (altitude, ascent, distance, speed).
Thanks for reading and I hope that it is clear what I meant.
+1 for turn symbols rather than text, for us hikers with non 20-20 eyesight!!
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@freeheeler
A feature similar to Garmin’s Virtual Run app to enable us to use the watch as a HR monitor when using Zwift or Wahoo. Currently there’s no way to use them without generating duplicate sessions. -
@wakarimasen On this respect, I have seen the review of the you tube channel the run testers on the suunto 5 peak. I feel what they said about navigation is true. Unfortunately is not good, but is true. I strongly advice Suunto developers to have a look.
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@fluca said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:
@wakarimasen On this respect, I have seen the review of the you tube channel the run testers on the suunto 5 peak. I feel what they said about navigation is true. Unfortunately is not good, but is true. I strongly advice Suunto developers to have a look.
Link?
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@fenr1r thank you, Yes that’s the right one.
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@fenr1r I think they might be a little too harsh. However, I agree with TbT criticism - I think it was kind of underdiscussed in the forum.
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Just a thought.
Baro sensor filtering choice:
Baro off for crazy outings on 100kmh wind gusts
Baro filter high for mid crazy weather
Baro default filter (auto)
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@lexterm77 but your hands swing when you walk/run - it already creates both wind and altitude changes. If you move with e.g. 10kmh, the wind moves against the sensor hole with 10kmh. So I’m not sure if no filtering at all would be a good idea even in the nicest of weathers. But it may be interesting to have an option of changing the aggressiveness of the filter.
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I don’t swing them that fast, and when I swing them motion sensor does know it.
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@lexterm77
is it that bad with wind effect?
I dare to say that I’ve never experienced that… and I also go outdoors when it’s not only sunshine and blue sky… the only issue I have is blocked holes on sweaty forearm or wet sleeves.
IMHO best solution S9P
living sideways
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It is also possible to share sensor data via BT multiple Suunto Watches with Baro, so you can have 3 watches is like having one watch with 3 sensors. If you want more accuracy, buy more watches
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I’ve posted before data when I had 90kmh gusts. With A3P on a bike it was much worse than S9B. But S9B was struggling to keep Baro data flat and on a flat route I seem to have climbed half a km.
In any case with high wind gusts Baro data is almost useless.
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@lexterm77 yeah, actually combining the data of motion sensors to adjust the filtering sound interesting, not sure how well it can be implemented though. One may even try to write an algorithm that recognises periodic noise and adjusts just that part - exactly for arm swings or something similar.
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@freeheeler I can show you some tracks of windsurfing
Both water and wind are no friends with the baro sensor
I guess that’s why Suunto decided to shut it off for those kind of sports.
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