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Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race

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    isazi Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
    last edited by 13 Jan 2020, 13:38

    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos interesting, is Suunto the first vendor to add Beidou compatibility? I’ve always been curious about the system, they have 47 working satellites and seem to always be visible 🙂

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      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @isazi
      last edited by 13 Jan 2020, 13:46

      @isazi I think COROS is the first todo so with their latest (Dec) update (or Jan dont remember well)

      I think Suunto was the first to power up that chip and add Galileo support.

      From my tests with COROS it has improved track quality (using BEIDOU) and from other feedback I have seen.

      I would love to provide comparisons once the FW is a bit steady, promised later this week (for testers). (Which could also be delayed due to Sony).

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        freeheeler @isazi
        last edited by 13 Jan 2020, 13:46

        @isazi
        …please don’t mind me asking… is it basically possible to use beidou standalone?

        living sideways

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          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @isazi
          last edited by 13 Jan 2020, 13:47

          @isazi For the reference , as a Galileo enthousiast, the continuous unreliability of the constellation for me, it has proved worse than Glonass. I still use it, but would really like to

          A) EU FIX it , it is still problematic
          b) See some real improvement of tracks with BEIDOU

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            Maryn Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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              isazi Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
              last edited by 13 Jan 2020, 13:48

              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos same here, I love Galileo and would love to see it thrive, but man it fails horribly at times 😞

              Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @freeheeler
                last edited by 13 Jan 2020, 13:48

                @TELE-HO I don’t think any of those can be atm used as standalones. BEIDOU does not have good coverage in my area at least. Yes it has a few sats though.

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                  Maryn Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                  last edited by 13 Jan 2020, 13:49

                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos power consumption is similar to gps+glo or gps+gal?

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                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @isazi
                    last edited by 13 Jan 2020, 13:49

                    @isazi yeah exactly. Some times I am like woooohooo. Look at this smoothness, and some other times -> Offset of 100m like wtf. I run with 3 S9 different constellations 10cm apart from each arm and you can clearly see who fucked up (which system)

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                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Maryn
                      last edited by 13 Jan 2020, 13:50

                      @Maryn Good question. I dont know. For QZSS for example the battery damage is 0 , for Gali more, and for glonass less than Gali

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                        Maryn Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                        last edited by 13 Jan 2020, 13:51

                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos based on your experience which is more reliable? Only GPS?

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                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Maryn
                          last edited by 13 Jan 2020, 13:56

                          @Maryn atm not sure. I will come back with test results. Dont want to give false hopes.

                          In theory GPS + GLO = Better and have not seen anything strage tbh

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                            Maryn Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                            last edited by 13 Jan 2020, 13:58

                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos ok, understood but better than GPS standalone? 🙂

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                              Egika Platinum Member
                              last edited by 13 Jan 2020, 14:14

                              ist there a good website that shows satellite coverage with the various systems and for a selectable region?

                              Thx!

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                                freeheeler @Egika
                                last edited by 13 Jan 2020, 14:34

                                @Egika
                                yes there is, I remember that either @isazi or @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos has posted a phone app that shows live satellites of the famous (of not all?) systems…
                                BUT I’ve searched for it but can’t recall atm the topic and discussion…
                                it must have been in the S9 pro’s and con’s or in the firmware update wishlist… sorry

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                                  Maryn Silver Members @Egika
                                  last edited by Maryn 13 Jan 2020, 14:36

                                  @Egika Coros introduced similar thing directly in watch .
                                  Maybe we can vote for such feature 🙂

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                                    freeheeler @Maryn
                                    last edited by 13 Jan 2020, 14:37

                                    @Maryn
                                    an indicator about satellite reception quality 👍

                                    living sideways

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                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Maryn
                                      last edited by 13 Jan 2020, 14:44

                                      @Maryn I would not like any of those features on a watch. Sure you can have those eg on the s7 its super easy to install an app todo that but even me gets 0 value…

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                                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Maryn
                                        last edited by 13 Jan 2020, 14:45

                                        @Maryn and btw that “app” is already in your s9 😉

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                                          freeheeler @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                          last edited by freeheeler 13 Jan 2020, 14:49

                                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                                          I just thought when you do sports at any place and the indicator (let’s say a traffic light indicator) goes to orange and you’re not happy about the recording you know already before you go next time that you could try adding either one of the other GNSS systems for that route?

                                          …something like anger prevention 😉

                                          living sideways

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