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Suunto app does not sync activities to movescount (web based)

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    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Fenr1r
    last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 18:12

    @Fenr1r I think in theory one could do that using the SA Android / SL

    Turn on offline mode sync get the SML .

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      Fenr1r @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
      last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 18:16

      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Interesting. And in Apple+PC world? Intercept the SML in the offlined PC’s file system? Does SL chuck one out to await syncing like good ol’ ML?

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        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Fenr1r
        last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 18:20

        @Fenr1r it stores the SML files in a folder /Users/myusername/Library/Application Support/Suuntolink as zip, .gz, .json (depending on the watch)

        Needs to be “enabled to sync with MC”

        Those files QS can parse 😉

        And theoretically you can / could pass them to any other app converted , or run QS even locally in an emulator (with some coding effort).

        Long time ago I wanted my ‘raw’ data 🙂

        Btw there is a tool that can pull those without the SL being installed for some more advanced users.

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          Fenr1r @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by Fenr1r 28 Jan 2020, 18:25

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto app does not sync activities to movescount (web based):

          Btw there is a tool that can pull those without the SL being installed for some more advanced users.

          Accessing the file system on the watch directly? I am highly intrigued and sufficiently advanced as to tie my own laces (on a good day). Where might I find this tool?

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            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Fenr1r
            last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 18:52

            @Fenr1r To clarify this I think is for ambits. For Spartans / S it is more “internal” but I am pushing to stop being so. I think it’s some opensource license involved. No clue why this is stalling but a good reminder for me.

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              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Fenr1r
              last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos 28 Jan 2020, 18:53

              @Fenr1r and I said something wrong again. It’s no FS access (the "tool"I refer to is for pulling out kinda the same files SL creates) . The folders above are where files by SL live.

              For ambit opensource is https://github.com/openambitproject/openambit

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                Fenr1r @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                last edited by Fenr1r 28 Jan 2020, 19:02

                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Knew that was too good to be true (for the moment). I’ve got openambit working - inelegant but effective. Hope you do get the Spartan/S version released. And, perhaps a Disable option on the App’s auto-syncing so that the more tinfoil-hatted/privacy-conscious among us don’t have to play Disconnect-The-Internet in order to extract our activities. Many thanks.

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                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Fenr1r
                  last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 19:09

                  @Fenr1r to be honest I never understood why not this tool is not out…
                  One could find the same data the tool fetches (kinda as I said before) at the SL folder.

                  Extra: Add a Java encoder bin file for FIT file conversion and voila… Server issues? Something else? … No problem…

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                    Fenr1r @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                    last edited by Fenr1r 28 Jan 2020, 19:34

                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                    Maybe, and you’d know infinitely better than I, there wasn’t really a holistic concept for replacing all the parts of the original MC. MC contained so much more that happened on the server side (vs watch and/or M/SL-equipped computer) so there was never any incentive to develop something to work on those bridge devices. The handheld GPS I mentioned, Satmap, has a little utility which does that (more or less: proprietal file-type conversion+), as well as wifi for a file-system device-server link.

                    Maybe there was fear of dilution of user loyalty when having to use MC would keep idle minds from wandering (shopping around for other route planners/analysis), as they might if they could extract a FIT or GPX from the start.

                    Maybe fear of feature & platform creep - “shouldn’t such a utility be able to control watch settings as well?” Just as SA does for the Spartan/S… why would one want to need a server connection to adjust sports modes?

                    Anyhow: could that Java encoder bin extract a GPX file, too, please? And whatever the hell form those POIs are stored in.

                    ευχαριστώ

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                      isazi Moderator @Fenr1r
                      last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 21:55

                      @Fenr1r if in the SA configuration (at least on Android) you open the “Data practices” or the “Privacy policy” pages, you are redirected to the sports-tracker website, which contains the overall data and privacy policy of Amer Sports. So nothing fishy here, it’s all written there, and agreed by the users.

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                        Fenr1r @isazi
                        last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 22:09

                        @isazi Fair enough. App’s not ready for me yet so I haven’t looked at that. Thanks for looking it up.

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                          isazi Moderator @Fenr1r
                          last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 22:11

                          @Fenr1r said in Suunto app does not sync activities to movescount (web based):

                          @isazi Fair enough. App’s not ready for me yet so I haven’t looked at that. Thanks for looking it up.

                          Would have checked earlier, but I went to the movies tonight 🙂

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                            Fenr1r @isazi
                            last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 22:13

                            @isazi Well, I retract my thanks in that case. How dare you put your cultural enrichment ahead of my trivial request? Shame on you, etc.

                            Good film?

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                              isazi Moderator @Fenr1r
                              last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 22:17

                              @Fenr1r said in Suunto app does not sync activities to movescount (web based):

                              Good film?

                              Good one, Parasite.

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                                Fenr1r @isazi
                                last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 22:22

                                @isazi Cool, thanks. It’s on my list. I enjoyed Snowpiercer & The Host. Ready for something less SF from him.

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                                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @isazi
                                  last edited by 29 Jan 2020, 09:24

                                  @isazi great movie

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