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    QwertyBoy @Guest
    last edited by 11 Feb 2020, 15:07

    @NickK said in Suunto 9 Adaptive training plan:

    @QwertyBoy Original documentation error? Translation error when Russian pages were created? 🤷 Where are you quoting from? Regardless, Suunto 5 does have this feature. Suunto 9 clearly doesn’t and nobody in these forums heard about the feature being added. In fact, if this happens before other improvements people have been asking for years, there will be blood in the streets…

    https://www.suunto.com/ru-ru/News/suunto-3-fitness-becomes-suunto-3-and-is-precision-made-in-finland/

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      isazi Moderator
      last edited by 11 Feb 2020, 15:11

      Alright, reading the English version of the announcement is more clear. It is different from your Russian to English translation, much different:

      Like the Suunto 5 and the Suunto 9, the Suunto 3 is more than just a fitness watch, with personalized adaptive training guidance and holistic 24/7 activity tracking including step count, sleep quality, stress, and recovery.

      Basically it just says that is more than just a fitness watch 🙂

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        sartoric Moderator
        last edited by sartoric 2 Nov 2020, 15:11 11 Feb 2020, 15:11

        In english sounds a bit different

        " Like the Suunto 5 and the Suunto 9, the Suunto 3 is more than just a fitness watch, with personalized adaptive training guidance and holistic 24/7 […]"

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          A Former User @QwertyBoy
          last edited by A Former User 2 Nov 2020, 15:16 11 Feb 2020, 15:13

          @QwertyBoy Bad translation indeed. Here’s original English: “Like the Suunto 5 and the Suunto 9, the Suunto 3 is more than just a fitness watch, with personalized adaptive training guidance”… Proper translation to Russian would be: “Как и Suunto 5 и Suunto 9, Suunto 3 – это больше чем просто спортивные часы, с адаптированными планами тренировок”…

          Планы и прочее относится к Suunto 3, не более. Sorry!

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            sartoric Moderator
            last edited by 11 Feb 2020, 15:14

            I guess that we all got that is a translation issue 😁 😁 😁

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              QwertyBoy
              last edited by 11 Feb 2020, 15:17

              Ok, the BIG mistake in official suunto site 😉

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                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                last edited by 11 Feb 2020, 15:24

                I am all ears what should be changed from what to what … 😄

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                  A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                  last edited by A Former User 2 Nov 2020, 15:40 11 Feb 2020, 15:37

                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Russian translation of Suunto 3 rename press release makes it seem like Suunto 9 has adaptive training plans, which it doesn’t. Better update it before there’s a class action lawsuit 😧

                  My previous post gives correct wording in Russian. Actually, I don’t like that translation one bit. The whole paragraph should be approached differently. Not literally as above.

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                    QwertyBoy @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                    last edited by 11 Feb 2020, 16:04

                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 Adaptive training plan:

                    I am all ears what should be changed from what to what … 😄

                    I would like to change the English version of the description to Russian 🙂

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                      Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Guest
                      last edited by 11 Feb 2020, 16:24

                      @NickK Is nice to have if implemented, but personally is more important to have asymetric intervals or even autolaps add-on for SuuntoPlus.

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                        dulko79
                        last edited by 11 Feb 2020, 17:17

                        Maybe someone wants adaptive training plans and baro, which is not included in S5. Maybe someone finds S9 more attractive than S5 plus wants all the features. Features sell stuff, look at mobile industry so many functions (core, ram, pixels, lens number) advertised in mobiles and in the end we use 5% of capabilities. Final call is up to management decision, but I believe extra features would make S9 more interesting to more people.

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                          dulko79
                          last edited by 11 Feb 2020, 17:22

                          One more thing maybe I missed it, but when I open suunto’s website and search for suunto 9 I see key features battery life, so many sport profiles, built tough etc etc but not a single word about vo2max, sleep quality, body battery. New features are mentioned in update sections. Maybe they are all gimmicks and not important for hard core athletes but some customer care about them. Let them know, show them.

                          Adding additional features to S9 would be also a great message to current customers - we care about you.

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                            Luís Pinto Platinum Member @dulko79
                            last edited by Luís Pinto 2 Nov 2020, 17:35 11 Feb 2020, 17:29

                            @dulko79 For price S5 is a valuable sport watch (take a look). For 250€ you get:

                            1. A beauty watch, assembled in Finland;
                            2. A durable bat with sony chipset and antenna like ambit3;
                            3. Recovery features;
                            4. Adaptive training;
                            5. Navigation;
                            6. Nofifications;
                            7. All stuff of S9, except baro and touch screen;
                            8. New SuuntoPlus add-on goodies.

                            https://www.amazon.es/Suunto-multideporte-inoxidable-silicona-SS050299000/dp/B07XV8VHD3/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_es_ES=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=suunto%2B5&qid=1581442056&sr=8-1&th=1

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                              nseslija Bronze Member @Luís Pinto
                              last edited by 11 Feb 2020, 19:24

                              @Luís-Pinto Really great watch…

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                                dulko79 @Luís Pinto
                                last edited by 11 Feb 2020, 20:14

                                @Luís-Pinto Indeed, S5 is a remarkable watch. My idea was if functions can be ported to other products in terms of feasibility and costs. Just do it, attract a larger crowd.

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                                  Brad_Olwin Moderator
                                  last edited by 11 Feb 2020, 20:30

                                  I like the S5 as well, much smaller than the S9 and all features save one, the barometer. If the S5 had it I would use the S5 much more. The GPS tracks are great!

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                                    Jonathan Schwarz Bronze Member @Guest
                                    last edited by 12 Feb 2020, 05:19

                                    @NickK Why give us Fitness Age then, if they are trying to be discerning with FirstBeat licensing? For the Suunto9 user base - the Training Effect: Aerobic and Anaerobic would have been way more interesting!

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                                      isazi Moderator @Jonathan Schwarz
                                      last edited by 12 Feb 2020, 08:19

                                      @Jonathan-Schwarz fitness age is basically a lookup table on real age and VO2Max, so maybe it’s free if you license VO2Max 🙂

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                                        A Former User @Jonathan Schwarz
                                        last edited by 12 Feb 2020, 13:10

                                        @Jonathan-Schwarz Well, let’s see… Where’s my crystal ball?

                                        I’m pretty sure licensing and development costs are the reason. It’s not like Firstbeat is a buffet with a prix fixe menu. You pick whatever you’d like from the options, pay a fixed price, and – voila – features magically appear on your watch. Suunto might have to pay different amounts for various features. The features could have had other dependencies (like Body Resources depends on all day stress). Most importantly, all these features must be integrated with Suunto proprietary operating system and apps. And tested.

                                        Adding already existing stuff was easy, because it was already integrated and tested with Suunto 5, and Suunto 3 prior to that.

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                                          Jonathan Schwarz Bronze Member @Guest
                                          last edited by 12 Feb 2020, 14:47

                                          @NickK I see. That reasoning makes sense! Thanks @NickK

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