Suunto 7 - Google fit integration must be improved

[pilleus]

@Bulkan I use QS for the summary of my activities, Google Fit for activities, sleep, heart rate and steps. With the new layout Google Fit looks nice and clean and I have the daily overview on all watches (Fit tiles in WearOS).

So I can use several watches and even several apps to record an activity. I prefer Ghostracer for cycling, routes and map are integrated, ascent and barometric altitude are better than the S7 wear app and battery usage is also better.

That’s my situation.

[pilleus]

And here the new layout of Google Fit. From Sunday to Thursday all steps were deleted by the S7, yesterday and today I deactivated the complete Suunto system on the S7 and the steps are summarised.

[pilleus]

Updated Google Fit now is showing sleep details. Nice to have.

[Antonio Fdez]

@pilleus that is a good news! But in my phone i can still see It…

[tomeumb]

@pilleus what app are you using to control your sleep on suunto 7 and transfer it to Google fit? It looks so nice!!

[pilleus]

@tomeumb oh, it’s my other WearOS watch that records my sleep. A Skagen Falster 3 with its native sleep tracking app, called Wellness. I tried to use it on the S7, but it doesn’t install due to a missing library. And I prefer the Falster 3 during the night, because it is slim and I don’t feel the watch on my wrist.

[Ander Lehena]

@tomeumb With the heart rate track turned on on your watch in 2nd plane and in google fit set up the hours of sleep you get.

[pilleus]

@Ander-Lehena did you try it?

What does Google Fit record if you are sitting on your couch from 20 to 23 h and your choosen sleep time starts at 22 h?

[Ander Lehena]

@pilleus Yes.It records your heart rate in the hours you’ve put on sleep, to add sleep you have to manually put it on google fit.

[Ander Lehena]

@pilleus https://youtu.be/uKUDmQcHz64

[pilleus]

@Ander-Lehena 24/7 heart rate enabled is recording my heart rate since ages in Google Fit. And sleep tracking is different for me. The app must recognise my sleep time without any action by the user.

[pilleus]

Suunto is changing the heart rate measurement of Google Fit. Means, that the 24/7 heart rate recording of Google Fit doesn’t work natively, if you want to use it by default.

I found a way to re-enable it. It’s working then as on other WearOS watches (Skagen Falster 3, Casio WSD-F21HR).

I just disabled the Suunto overlay with ADB.

The command “adb shell cmd overlay disable --user 0 com.google.android.wearable.app.overlay.salmon” does the trick. Now I have back the 24/7 graph of Google heart rate on the S7.

[Jamie BG]

@pilleus are you referring re the google fit app on the watch or the phone?

[pilleus]

@Jamie-BG said in Suunto 7 - Google fit integration must be improved:

@pilleus are you referring re the google fit app on the watch or the phone?

On the S7 (watch)

[Jamie BG]

@pilleus - you don’t need to do what you have done, it is still there and works fine.
There are two ways to see it:

1. on the watch launch google fit, then scroll down until you see Heart Rate button, press it, scroll down past latest reading, which will show a line chart which covers at least the last 4 hours.
2. If you have the heart rate tile installed, then go to the tile, press on it, which open the heart rate section of google fit, and provides the same details as per 1).

[pilleus]

@Jamie-BG not for me. S7 doesn’t show the graph. And the steps from another WearOS watch are overwritten by the S7 in my Google Fit account. Therefore I searched for a solution. No idea, what’s going wrong.

With this tweak I have back both, the graph and the steps are added to my Google Fit account.

[Jamie BG]

@pilleus - The suunto app will automatically overwrite what is in google fit, as that is how it has been designed to work (suunto app driving the data with google fit showng part and the suunto app showing the rest).

If you are using another wear os watch in conjuction with the S7, then yes you probably will get issues (why are you even doing that, can’t really see the point as S7 gives you both?).

You know that you don’t have to use ADB to uninstall the app, you can just go into system apps and adjust the suunto apps permissiosn so it can’t use location and sensors, and then just rely on google fit.

Not sure if unlinking the apps in the phone would work to, but might.

[pilleus]

@Jamie-BG

For sleep tracking I use the Skagen Falster 3, slim, light, no problem to wear it over night, native sleep tracking using the co-processor, autosync to Google Fit.

For Hiking I use the Casio WSD-F21HR, a perfect watch with the best software for this purpose out there for me, called moment setter and a very accurate GPS track, much better than the one of the S7.

For Cycling I use the S7.

For kayaking I use the Spartan Ultra.

And all activities and data are gathered in Google Fit, because the Suunto App is not able to import these data from the different watches.

And I want to have all the data in Google Fit and it cannot be the decision of Suunto to overwrite steps or calories from other watches in Google Fit.

That’s my situation.

[pilleus]

This is what I have now on all watches if I open the heart rate tile or Google fit.

[Jamie BG]

@pilleus - yes have that without disabling suunto app.

What you could do is unlink the suunto app from google fit, so that it will not overwrite. Then use SyncMyTracks and or similar to import just your S7 activity tracks into google fit.